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Does anybody else get slapped in the face by there AK stock?
I have a Wasr-10 that beats the heck out of my cheek to the point of leaving a bruise. I'm thinking I might install a recoil buffer or maybe put some rubber between the stock an receiver. Does anyone else have this problem or what did you do to fix it?
Can't say I have. Usually a good tight cheek weld will prevent that from happening.
Cheek weld...
I get a good weld and tuck it good,its like a shock wave is moving through the stock it literally feels like somebody's smacking me and the sound is metallic if that makes sense. A poly buffer may be the way to go or a new spring.
I don't want to start part swapping if its just the nature of the beast and I'm not a fan of buffers.
I can't say I noticed anything. I had a blast firing it and the only issue was everyone else to the right of me running for cover from ejected casings. Only ever fired it the one time. I shot 10 from a rest and 10 or 20 off hand.
I'll tuck my AK in close to where my nose almost touched the cover. Can't say that I ever felt any thing like that. Got a brake on it?
Just the slant brake, I think the bolt carrier is slamming back way hard. Just looked up AK buffers it doesn't look like if it fails or a chunk comes off it'll effect operation but might mess with the trigger group. What the hell I'm not fighting the zombie horde I mind as well install one see if that helps Its no fun being bitch slapped by your own weapon you know..??
A buffer is not going to help this.
Very odd. Action spring replacement might help, but it seems unlikely to have all that much effect. Symtoms are reminiscent of a seriously over-gassed G43 i has years back. It would beat the operator silly and cycle so violently that it would catch it's own brass on the rebound sometimes.
Bill, Why will a buffer not help? I never took notice does the carrier not contact the receiver on recoil?
We have an old gunsmith at the club I'll see if he has a bore scope. Gas system never crossed my mind. Maybe corrosion opened it up who knows.
Have new springs an a buffer on the from Midway it's worth a try.
I really don't think it's my technic had two friends fire it and they noticed it too without me telling them. I can't see changing my hold any and still feel comfortable behind the weapon but I'll give it a try also.. I'll post my results after the changes.
Sometimes the buffers cause their own type of troubles. I'm with Bill after hearing everything else you say, I think maybe over gassed. The Norinco (AKs) guns first came into Canada in about 1985, they had things like this happen. One hit so hard that the rear block was driven out of the receiver(Folding stock version).
Kalashnikov's design has worked for many years without a buffer. They are a waste of money in my opinion. Pictures of your gas tube may shed some light on this. Also, is it a milled receiver? If it is milled and it has the solid gas tube you may consider replacing it with a perforated one. Generally milled came with the perforated gas tube and stamped with the solid tube.
Solid tube
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...UBE20NEW-1.jpg
Perforated tube
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...6/162943-1.jpg
It's stamped and does in fact have the solid gas tube. I have to pickup a new cable for the camera to post pics which I've been wanting to do.
I'm looking at the bolt carrier now and the "beak" on the rear is peened real bad!!! It's hitting the hammer hard enough that it's starting to gouge it also!!!
I see what you mean Bill the buffer isn't gonna do anything the bolt can't travel that far.
Looking at it I'm thinking the carrier is striking the hammer so hard it's whacking the catch hook,basically bottoming out an that's the metallic sound an that's what I'm feeling in my cheek.
It's looking like a gas issue Thanks for heads up on the tubes
For Sale= 1976 Wasr-10/63 low round count, feeds reliably, looks cool, stock is factory mint;)
It sounds like it's "over gassed." The gas port hole in the barrel is too big.
It's a quick fix with a TIG welder.
Wolff has an extra power recoil spring that might help.
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Roger, already on the way...
Keep us info'ed on this. The solution will be valuable to others following...
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robert
Recieved the goodie box yesterday, I tell ya it's the closet I get to the feeling you got when you where a kid on Christmas mornin.
Wolf extra power recoil spring, AK74 brake,side mount for the red dot,truglo red dot sight,hogue grip,buffer for giggles.
I googled this issue an it seems its pretty common with the wasr 10. Most say they replaced the recoil spring with the wolf spring and that fixed it.
I'll post results Sunday....
Pretty simple Robert, just go to a post he made and click on his name, the PM feature will appear. Or go here. Military Surplus Collectors ForumsQuote:
Originally Posted by rmillian
Well, the slap is gone but what was causing it could be a few things. While I had the gun apart I polished the bolt carrier rails,bolt rails,trigger group an hammer and polished the locking lugs. Replaced the recoil spring with the Wolf extra power and installed a buffer.The action was a lot smoother and less noisy an was noticeably less "violent" not to say recoil.
The gas system checked out,the gas block itself is vented and the hole to the barrel didn't look enlarged Oh, but it is canted.!!!:banghead:. Another issue I found was the receiver was bent like a V with the wide part at the rear. What this was doing was forcing the gas piston to rub the rear sight base because there was too much slop between the carrier an rails. Quick turn in the good ol' vise to tighten that up.
So, to sum things up don't buy a century arms Wasr 10/63 unless you don't mind fiddling around with crap AK47 variants...
As always, Thanks guys for your input an suggestions.:thup: