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hello i have found this rifle in pieces and i think its a mk5 since its engraved on the side and it has lighting cuts on receiver and bolt nob is hollow has the 800 yrd sights but the barrel doesn't have the cuts and the wood is not right and i cant get a 303 British to fit ?? i have lots of pics help please Attachment 46307Attachment 46320Attachment 46321Attachment 46322Attachment 46323Attachment 46324Attachment 46325Attachment 46326Attachment 46327Attachment 46328Attachment 46319Attachment 46318Attachment 46317Attachment 46308Attachment 46309Attachment 46310Attachment 46311Attachment 46312Attachment 46313Attachment 46314Attachment 46315Attachment 46316Attachment 46329

it looks like a no5 bolt and reciever that has the wrong barrel and wrong stock on it.

that's what i was thinking but i didn't know u could swap barrels hmm any idea why i cant shoot 303 ?

Is it a .308 conversion barrel? I had one that still had a .303 mag but had been changed. The sight is definitely #5 sight. 800 yd only...looks like a Canadian Arsenals barrel that has been turned down at the Knoxform and maybe that gave them enough to run a .308 chamber ream in. If the barrel measure tight, I can see some cheap SOB doing that.

the mag is for 303 doesn't work for 308 and the bolt doesn't eject 308 properly so i have a 303 with wrong wood and a 308 barrel any thoughts?

Did you try to chamber a .308? It would work as a single shot only. I know, I had one. If that's the case, sell the rear sight and get some back from this.

308 seems to chamber ill go try and shoot it think its safe lol ???

Find a surplus Indian L2A1 bolt head from Numrich arms or Marstar. I recently saw a mag follower for .308 on e-Bay that looked as though it would fit in a std. No.4 (or 5) mag body.

I presume that you mean an Indian 7.62mm SMLE bolt head Jimme? Don't bother, it won't operate on a No4 bolt or body. Nor will the 7.62mm mag follower work in a .303" magazine! In short Arthur, this thing you've got is a cheap hybrid or what we'd call 'a bitzer'. I suppose you could, given a bit of time, patience and effort make up a shootable, cheap to run 7.62mm No5 look-a-like. Get yourself a flash eliminator, and some woodwork and some.........

could i find a barrel and switch that out back to 303 or is that no option?? i paid 80 bucks for it so ...

If you can find a decent barrel from a reputable source, get it cheap so you don't have to pay much for re-barrelling, headspace and then it shoots OK...I guess it will be workable.

Is the .303 round you are using to check the chamber a brand-new factory one, or a reloaded one? If it is a reload from another rifle, and only neck-sized, it might not fit in this rifle even if it is a .303!

Could it be chambered in one of the 303 wildcats like 303/25 or 303/270? These would also not chamber a standard 303 round.

If your rifle is a .308, about the only Ishapore 2A 7.62 part which would be of any use to you is the magazine.

Although intended for a No 1 style action, they will fit the No 4 or No 5 action and feed reliably - better than the Sterling 7.62 mags in my experience.

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Originally Posted by Maxwell Smart

Is the .303 round you are using to check the chamber a brand-new factory one, or a reloaded one? If it is a reload from another rifle, and only neck-sized, it might not fit in this rifle even if it is a .303!

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The neck sized reloads from my No4 will not chamber in my No1. They stop at about the same place.

Just a minute chaps........... We're REALLY complicating an extremely simple scenario here with all this talk of this that and the other.........

If it's already in 7.62mm then all you need to do is to check that it CHS's with the bolt and bolt head that you already have. If not, then get someone who knows what he's doing to adjust it so that it is. Find a 7.62mm extractor from Brian(?) at BDL Ltd
Mount the barrel in a lathe, muzzle end first complete with the body. Insert the bare (or a spare) bolt and use the striker hole as the centre to support it. Now machine the smaller diameter for the flash eliminator at the length of the true No5 barrel. Leave the main barrel the diameter it is because......
Now modify a set of tatty No4 fore-end and handguard to No5 spec. Get a No5 butt or modify a No4 butt to No5 spec using a No5 butt plate assembly
There it is. You've got yourself a cheap to run, shootable good fun No5 look-a-like for cheap. I say cheap on the basis that 7.62 is cheaper than .303!

Later on, if you can find a cheapo 7.62mm magazine, all the better. I know it's not original, but it wasn't before in any case. And if you put (or even find.....) a new barrel on it, it still ain't original and you've STILL got ti find original wood and......... It's called KISS

i took it to range and it shots 308 well it does ejects shells just not perfect if i can get a clip or if anyone knows if u can modifie existing one thx for all the info

[QUOTE=arthurj;274788 if i can get a clip or if anyone knows if u can modifie existing one thx for all the info[/QUOTE]

Practically impossible to modify the existing magazine to feed .308

The "proper" 7.62 magazines can be expensive and not all that easy to find.

I would think that in the Ishapore 2A 7.62 magazine might be your best bet..

First two images show an Ishapore type magazine in a No4 L8 clone; the third shows the three most common types of 7.62 mags (Ishapore/Sterling/Enfield)

I just used my existing mag and single loaded 7.62. It was only a platform. Never had much ejection problem, I canted the rifle to the right. It shot about as well...well, Peter already gave an opinion about that...

anyone know were to get a magazine in canada?

You may have to attend the next local gun show to find one. We have one at the Saanich Fairgrounds just at Halloween this year. Just a few days away. 26/27th of Oct. It's the big one for around here. There should be a few... It may cost you from $25-$35 but shouldn't be more than that. It will be used too.

You can be rest assured that if someone's making repro No4 magazines when there's not a world shortage of the real McCoy, then they'll soon be making repro 7.62mm magazines. Even if they can only be made to work successfully with a bit of fiddling.

They may already be out there...