Bisley Trafalgar Fair and next weeks Classic

I went yesterday (Saturday)

What did you think of it?

A number of 4T's - varied a lot in price(£2000 - £4000?) - not sure how honest some of them were.

Any L42's?

Only one Enforcer - including case. I was surprised at the asking price but the owner (Forum member?) pointed out that they are very rare now and I can remember very few legit ones coming up in the last year or so.

Didnt see so many Parker Hale/AJP sights as in the past either.

A number of the usual stallholders seemed to be missing - declining interest or are they likely to be attending the Classic Fair next Sunday?

John

The £4000 looked OK to me and was from the Irish Army via that bloke in Northern Ireland who seems to have picked them all up.

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Originally Posted by Gnr527

A number of the usual stallholders seemed to be missing - declining interest or are they likely to be attending the Classic Fair next Sunday?

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Something to do with a twenty two and half per cent increase in price to the stall holders?

BTW, did you visit our (HBSA) Section 7 Exhibition? Entry Fee held at one new pound. :D

Was all ready to go but (was at work) needed to strip some parts from a engine, was after some ammo and a crack with DRP & Dave, Simon and Chosenman, hope all went well ? My mate got the ammo (I think) German surplus 7.62 x 51, ( I use it for testing but an excellent round)

Surprised to see the growing number of 4Ts repro parts and made-up sniper rifles at the
Trafalgar fair at Bisley,its harder to find genuine rifles.::yikes:

Sorry you couldn't make it Big Duke - I was looking forward to a natter. Even so, chosenman, Thunderbox, Valley Sniper, Simon, Nigel & a number of other forummers were present. The Ex-Irish 4T was nice & pretty honest, though I didn't look at it in great detail. Both of ours have been re-built but are real ones. I did see several dubious pieces there though, & not described as 'recent assemblies' as they perhaps ought to have been..........!

ATB

Yes, table prices are creeping up year on year and folk didn't seem to be buying either. I did sell a couple of rifles but they both went to the trade so I've likely just about covered my costs for the weekend.

Didn't see you leave on the Sat evening Rog, must have missed you with all the excitement of the hordes of punters flush with spending money:lol:

On a more positive note though I did pick up a very nice Aldis Pattern IV which is ex PP Co.

Cheers,

Simon.

Simon,
The aldis sounds nice. Was it a chance buy off the floor, or from a fellow collector/dealer? There was a chap carrying a nice cased PPCo around but he couldn't make up his mind if he wanted to sell it or not!

Sorry I missed you & Dave when we left but Nigel was available to watch over the stall for a few minutes after the shooting finished, so we grabbed the chance to ferry stuff over to the car whilst he kept an eye on things for us.

ATB

P.S. Do you think the aldis is off a P'14 or a SMLE? Is the range drum graduated 1 to 6 or 1 to 10?

Would have liked to be there but a very painful foot prevented the 8 hr drive from Edinburgh. Ian my trading partner said it was pretty quiet. Bit of a shame as I had some German scopes and Parker Hale sights for sale.

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Originally Posted by Roger Payne

Sorry you couldn't make it Big Duke - I was looking forward to a natter. Even so, chosenman, Thunderbox, Valley Sniper, Simon, Nigel & a number of other forummers were present.

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I'm afraid I was busy most of the day in the Army and then missed the chance later to come by for a chat later. What with getting a few reloading supplies etc., I don't know where the day went.

Not to worry.....there's always next year!

Beerhunter,

Could you fill in the details on the sale of Ex Irish No 4 T rifles?

What I know is as of 2004 they had 50 of them, of which one was in a museum and another was supposed to go to a museum, Leaving 48 in storage.

Any details you have on this sale and where they ended up would be of interest.

I believe the company in Belfast took delivery of 25 No32 Mk3's complete in their tins, as well as a small number of complete No4 T's, but I don't know exactly how many complete rigs they had. They have one of the scopes on ebay currently (ends soon), but most have sold already, so I gather. They were nearly all CT&S scopes with a majority of M & N prefix rifle serial numbers stamped into the brackets. There were also a few THCo scopes, if this is of any help.....

ATB

Thanks Mr. Payne.

The last sale I was aware of was when they sold off the No 1 MK III bayonets, a lot of rather uncommon bayonets came out in that lot circa 2010.

The scuttlebut is that they still have stacks of stuff in store.

Roger,

Many thanks for your appraisal of my No4 T and L42. Its reassuring to have a skilled eye give the once over and note points of interest rather than deliver a hammer blow! (its Fake!!)

Once again many thanks.

You're welcome chosenman! Actually, I did sell two No4 T's last Saturday myself, although they weren't complete - just scopeless rifles; one being sleeved to .22LR (effectively a No9 with body pads!).

ATB.