Went for one penny! That is the ship were a errant rocket killed and injured all those sailors!
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Went for one penny! That is the ship were a errant rocket killed and injured all those sailors!
I saw the training film of the incident in AO "A" school in 1983. It's a shame she couldn't have been saved for a memorial or museum ship.
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She was semi mothballed at Newport R.I. beside the Saratoga. The Navy took the Forrestal to the west coast I think and the Saratoga is waiting for a group to raise the funds to turn her into a museum. But their time is running out and if they don't raise the funds they need soon, she too will go to the boneyard. But while both carriers were there along with the battleship Iowa it was an impressive sight.
If memory serves me correctly said missle came off John McCains aircraft.Quote:
Originally Posted by A. F Medic
1 Cent? Another example of tax $ well spent. Could they not have gotten market value for the scrap?
Check that I think the rocket hit his aircraft.
You're actually asking why the government that just spent $500/gallon for gasoline in Afghanistan would not try to get market value for the scrap? It's going to cost them $6 BILLION in paperwork to put that penny in the bank.
While I am sure that is tonge in cheek at some level it is probably closer to the truth than either of us could imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
I had a chance to see the Iowa tied up in Long Beach and a Victory ship also about two months ago.. Wish more of these could be saved for the future.
They actually did pay $500 a gallon for gasoline. The rest is tongue in cheek.
I slept on the New Jersey a few years ago. Had breakfast in the mess hall. Very interesting.
On my travels saw a host of these, parked alongside in Philadelphia, can't tell you their names, but it was sad to see.
One day when they have been scrapped people will once again say, "I wish we could put our old aircraft carriers alongside these Chinese Giants just to show them, that big doesn't mean MIGHT:surrender:
I've done the New Jersey self tour a couple of times myself. My favorite part is climbing up into the fire control room of the #2 turret and looking down to the loading room.
My uncle was a Marine mortarman in Vietnam and one of the things he shared with me was the first time he heard the Jersey's shells freight training overhead, he said it scared the hell out of the guys, they all hit the deck, funny...
The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war.
Douglas MacArthur
How very true........
I was reading an article about the latest Chinese aircraft carrier which will be the worlds biggest with over 10,000 crew.
The hull was apparently sold by a Russian to a Chinese "scrapyard" as scrap metal, 2 years later it has come out of the dockyards totally rebuilt into the massive beast it is today.
As we ex military men have always said look to China as the next threat to world peace :surrender::surrender:
Here's the Washington Post version:............
The Chinese navy is using its first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, for training and testing and will decide on an operational carrier for the fleet after a few years of evaluation, Admiral Wu Shengli said on Thursday.
The navy chief of the People's Liberation Army, on a military-to-military visit with his U.S. counterpart, told reporters at the Washington Navy Yard that Chinese sailors would carry out "very heavy" training over the next two or three years as they assess the carrier.
"After the training and experimentation we will have a final evaluation on the development of the aircraft carrier for the PLA navy," said Shengli, whose delegation included the commander of the Liaoning and the first pilot to land on its flight deck.
The Chinese carrier was built on the shell of a Soviet-era vessel that China purchased from Ukraine. China revamped the ship, which was formally commissioned in September 2012. Flight operations began two months later.
The launch of the first Chinese carrier is been seen as a symbol of Beijing's ambition for greater global influence and another sign of its rapid military buildup. U.S. officials have downplayed the importance, noting that it takes years to learn to effectively integrate carriers into fleet operations.
Senior Captain Zhang Zheng, the commander of the Liaoning, said the carrier was smaller than U.S. aircraft carriers and had a "ski jump"-style ramp at the end of its longest runway.
"We have around 36 airplanes operating on board our ship," he told reporters. "And we are still practicing and doing tests and experiments for the equipment and systems."
Wu, Zhang and Captain Dai Ming Meng, the pilot who first landed on the carrier, visited several American ships in California earlier this week, including the carrier USS Carl Vinson, where they met with their counterparts.
"We talked in great detail in San Diego with our aviation people and Admiral Wu's aviation people," said Admiral Jonathan Greenert, the U.S. Chief of Naval Operations, who hosted Wu. "It was great and inspiring to see two professionals talk about a common challenge - aviation from an aircraft carrier."
Wu received a ceremonial 19-gun salute at the Washington Navy Yard, the U.S. Navy's oldest shore establishment, during his formal welcoming ceremony on Thursday. He and his delegation visited the Pentagon later for further discussions.
The Wu visit was part of stepped-up efforts to improve military-to-military ties between the United States and China following a break in 2009 due to U.S. military sales to Taiwan. More than 40 visits, exchanges and engagements are planned for 2013, versus 20 last year.
China is, I believe, the biggest buyer of U.S. scrap metals so it'll more than likely end up there one way or another.
Better than being turned into an artificial reef like the Oriskany was I guess.
I have given the 1 cent price a bit more thought.
Once the buyer meets all the EPA OSHA and the rest of the alphabets rules and regulations
they will probably be lucky to make a profit.
USS Alabama is the only warship I have been luckey enough to tour (as a kid). Magnificent
experience. I bought a powder test container off her at a locaL fun show. Good memories.
Here's a part of the footage taken aboard.
USS Forrestal Mishap July 29, 1967 - YouTube
Thanks for a great video! I wondered if it was still available.
Reminds me of the crash we had on Okinawa of a B52 that caught fire and blew up with a full military bomb load. Two airman died. Plane was just short of our bomb dump where 10,000 pounders were stored
All the was left was the wheels
Quite a display of bravery on that deck. RIP
Sadly, Something that could happen at the blink of an eye, when guys get tired or distracted at crucial moments of loading or arming anything.
Seen highly experienced guys lose fingers over mortar tubes, when the pressure was on, so I have to say........."There but for the grace of God go I"
Tragic loss of men who showed outstanding bravery on that day, and probably now why they have a bulldozer on carrier decks with fire screens built around the driver seat.
I served aboard the USS Intrepid CVA11. I was aboard the Forrestall CVA59. I saw the world. I also felt vulnerable. The Chinese Mig21 shot down our air cover. 763 F4's.
Yes tragically the F4's were brilliant in their day, but they were slower compared to other faster jets. Maybe why us Brits put a Rolls Royce engine in our variant instead of the MC D.
Watching I had the thought that some sort of equipment able to push the burning aircraft off the deck would have helped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gil9713