Could this be a Type 30 stock?

My son-in-law's grandfather left him a part of what appears to be an Arisaka rifle.
The stock, cleaning rod and trigger guard/magazine are there.

I bought a Type 38 thinking to install the barrel/receiver and bolt in the above rifle stock. But it does not fit as the following photos show.

The mystery stock is not sufficiently inletted to accept the Type 38 receiver/barrel assembly.

If anyone can verify that the rifle stock is from a Type 30 I would appreciate it.

I bought Frank Allen's book on Early Arisakas and it has one photo of the Type 30. It looks like this rifle stock. However, the image is not high definition so I can't be sure.

I think you might have a Type I stock. These take a carcano action but look very similar to a Type 38.

Aragorn243:

Thanks, I'll take a look at Type I info to see.

Ray

I pulled out my Type I and everything looks the same with the exception of the small groove on the right side where the safety button goes on the bolt when closed. On yours it is rounded, on mine it is more sharply cut in the front.

I can't tell from your photos but does it have the split butt stock? Type I's have that just like the Type 99's.

You shouldn't have too much trouble getting a barreled action. They aren't as common as a Type 38 but they are around and inexpensive. They make for a very heavy rifle.

Aragorn243:

Good eye sir! Checked the reference photos of Type I rifle on Liberty Tree Collectors web-site.

The trigger guard has the same squared off shape as my mystery stock's.

Finding a Type I action/barrel is going to be a challenge.

Thanks for your tip! Ray.

Here's some photos of mine before and after removing a varnish type finish:

Japanese Type I

Aragorn243:

Thanks for the link to your thread. Your Type I looks terrific! Very interesting to follow the history of these milsurps. Now I can tell my son-in-law that its a stock from a Naval rifle, made in Italy to Japanese specs.

Yes, this rifle butt stock is made of two pieces, I'm guessing with the sliding dovetail.

Besides, searching the online gun listings, where would you look for a Type I action/barrel and bolt?

Ray

The bolt you could find on ebay in all likelihood. I've seen them there in the past. I however would not buy a bolt without having the action in hand. You have to be careful that they aren't trying to pass off a carcano bolt. They are similar but not the same and they are not interchangeable. ebay had been letting actions slide by for a while but I think they have figured this out now and are no longer allowing them to be sold. Some guys are still trying to get around the restriction by not showing the entire action on the photo making them appear to be cut. Depending on which state you live in this may or may not be legal to purchase in this manner. I live in a state which allows long guns to be sold between private parties.

The problem is, a lot of guys will not know what it is. They are going to look at photos and assume it is a carcano (which it is) but of the Italian variety. So there is a possibility they will be selling it as an Italian barreled action. The sights are a dead giveaway. Check Italian listings and look closely at the photos.

aragorn243:

Good tip, thanks. Will see what I can find.

Ray