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Hi Fellows
This is my FN MAG 58 Project
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This is a M240B Airsoft Gun with Real Steel FN MAG 58 parts , like Flash Hider, Gas regulator, Top Cover, Drum, Sling , and coming soon a Real Wood Butt!
The M240 Disassembly
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Regards
We had them as the L7A1 and L7A2 plus various other tank and helicopter variants like the L8 and L37 etc etc. They were known as The General'. Another word for them was 'GBF's'. As in 'Great Balls of Fire'! In Vietnam, the RPD was also known as the GBF too though.
During visits to Warminster I used to relate the story of the GPMG's acceptance into the UK Military and WO2 Fogwells discussion with the Director of Infantry. It was thje most expensive one to buy/licence build with soooooo many conditions but we've never looked back. It was/is like a faithful old beagle. Whatever you want it to do, whatever you ask of it, no matter how much you throw at it, no matter how badly you treat it or how dirty it gets. It just does it AND comes back for more. GREAT machine gun........
Someone ask me why the gas system is sooooooo complicated too. There's ANOTHER story of pure engineering/physics/mechanical acumen. Complicated but it works - EVERYWHERE!
It was and still is an excellent example of what to outfit an Infantry section/Platoon with. We were trying desperately to make the 1919A4 work in 7.62, call it the C1/C4/C5 Mg and only if you had a knack could it work properly. I watched most have great difficulty because the platform had changed so many mods it no longer was user friendly. I watched from a distance while the UK had a user friendly gun, only when I was past carrying and almost past supervising did we finally get the C6(Mag 58)...user friendly and simple to operate. As one old friend stated to me..."Where was this when we wanted to do this stuff?" Well...better late...
This project started before I could have the Bren. I wanted to have on my hands a LMG. and for that we chose Airsoft replicas. I love the story and the time in which these weapons so well acted and I have other replicas as an Springfield M14, an Colt M16 with M203 launcher, Sten MKII, M1918 BAR, M60, Browning HP , Colt 1911 and AKM .
A try to install them each original parts to adapt, as the Airsoft replicas are slightly smaller.
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Regards
My Co-worker used a version of these back in Iraq as a Marine . I asked him if he used a MAG-58 there. He gave me a quizzical look until I corrected myself and said a 240 Gulf. He said yes and they were also issued the M-249. They had gotten them from the Army and he stated they were all beat to hell. He said the main problems they had with the M-249 was the feed tray. A Ret. Army Officer friend of mine told me about when the M-249 were first used in Panama. It seems they could not penetrate the thick walls of the city with their .556 rounds. A call was made to pull out the M-60s out of storage and emergency airlift them to Panama. Gotta love FN !
Hi Fellows
My Airsoft FN MAG on Original Tripod ! :dancingbanana:
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Regards
Here's pics of me in the IDF with both my Zelda and my Mag58. The Mag was a bit painful to run around and roll with, but lots of fun to shoot. I made the "Magist" gloves all by myself!
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Zelda is what? An M113? Looks like a bolt on armor add on?
Yes, Israeli M113s were nicknamed Zelda. They had a light, screen-type armor with a space between it and the standard body armor. It was supposed to protect against certain AT weapons. Fortunately I was never on the receiving end of a test. As a driver, I was always more concerned about driving over a mine with the left track. Whether open or buttoned up, it would have been a short, interesting ride.
I drove those for many miles and lots of different country (a few countries too). I never hit a mine either, I think it would have burned for days...
Well, as the driver you wouldn't have thought much about the burn time after you encountered the closed hatch. ;)
A 113 of 8-RAR hit a chicom mine outside Xuyen Moc (excuse spelling if it's totally wrong) and it killed 6 I seem to remember. A big hit for one Battalion on one day especially when Douggy Baker got it the day before. I always seem to remember it being said that the pommy 432 equivalent was better protected. They're still in service as we speak too!
We had a couple hit mines in Bosnia and one was one of my troops driving. It struck the right outside end connector and blew up into the engine compartment. The engine was knocked off it's mounting and destroyed it's self...the driver was driving too far forward and had his jaw over the driver's hatch ring forward. His only injury other than ringing ears was a broken jaw. He didn't understand how lucky he was until I sent him to the library to look at pics of tanks that had hit mines in WW2. Then he stopped smiling...
It is really sort of sad, but I'm reading these and thinking a bit, and actually chuckling to my self. Gotta be quiet, my students are taking a test.
It's funny how you think about and remember the funnier sides of that life.........long after it is over. I guess it's the mind's way of coping with it.
Hi Fellows!
Now my MAG have her little sister,the MINIMI.
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Both Airsoft Gun!
Regards
We are now replacing the plastic butts on our existing L7 guns with wood - again! Plastic has a dire attrition rate in the heat. The shape of the wood ones is the same so the fittings are interchangeable. Like they say, '.....there's nowt as good as wood'
Johnny,
Yes I can see that its an IDF camp, cos if it was a British one, we would have got those in the "jail" at the time, painting the sand grass colour behind that line of boulders.
Not that I ever got jailed you understand:lol::lol:
First thing I noticed when we got the C6s was the beautiful European walnut they'd used on them...the early ones in '86-'87...Quote:
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Very nice! :thup:
Luis,
Which Japanese Airsoft Manufacturer makes that GPMG?
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Both are made in China.
The GPMG is this Echo1 Full Metal M240B Full Size Airsoft AEG Rifle, Airsoft Guns, Airsoft Electric Rifles, ECHO1 - Evike.com Airsoft Superstore . I upgrade with some Original FN MAG Parts like flashidder , fed tray cover , Gas regulator and coming soon wood butt.
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Luis,
Thanks for that, was asked the other day by a reenactor for a cheaper option on his WOLF Air Portable Land Rover which they use for display purposes only at some of our shows at the IWM Duxford.
I did suggest a new top cover and get rid of the plastic over the barrel would look the part as a GPMG mounted
The new wooden butts we're currently fitting are identical (?) in shape/format to the lower black plastic one in the picture. Remember ours Gil.......? Not exactly air soft but you could say they were powered by explosively powered air! Made by FN and Enfield!
We were initially taught to hold the L7 with the left hand on top of the butt - as we did with the Bren - but the under-the-grip hold took hold so to speak and is now the norm. Reminds me of the first time I used an L86/LSW/machine gun variant of the SA80 rifle. Sat at a table during my first familiarisation shoot I cocked the gun and put my left hand over the top - as I'd done for years with L4 Brens. Set the change lever to Auto to fire off a few short bursts and fired it. Cocking handle came back with 'some force' and took half the finger nail off my left little finger nail. Ho, ho, ho..... the DS (directing staff) thoiught it was a great little wheeze as quite a few others had done the same thing.
In these cases, rank has a few privileges and if you bide your time, you can always make sure that the penalty WILL be repaid - in full!
Ha Ha.......been there done that. Not much else you can say really about the finest weapon ever made, with the Bren in close second.
I still have burns on my hand from changing barrels on the GPMG when it was glowing one night.........are well more war stories..pull up a sandbag and swing the lamp:surrender:
Have a good weekend, Glorious in the East today, shirt off shooting.....WHAT that hot?? yes it is 27 degrees :eek:
Hey Luis,
i was looking for any infos looking for my MK48 project, and i found out flashhider is the same type as used on M240. You have upgraded your M240 into Gimpy. And here i go with my question :) do you still have original M240 flash hider spare? If yes, i would like to buy it from you. If you don't mind. Or if you can help / guide me where to buy it.
Gil, thomas, i send you PM! :thup:
Regards
Did you have to modify the RS parts to fit onto the gun?(flash hider, top cover, stock) I'm looking at doing the same build in the near future.
Regarding the wood / plastic furniture caper:
I was under the impression that wood was a potential hazard in NBC warfare.
Specifically, the grain / pores of the timber could potentially absorb and hold some nasty battlefield "residue". Thus, something a bit more "wash and wear" was desired. Just strip the gun, hose it down with the decontamination gear, (VERY expensive steam-cleaner), re-oil it and away you go. Even the best walnut would get very shabby with that treatment; assuming you got all of the nasties out of it.
Compared to the tree-ware, the black plastic gets uncomfortably hot when exposed to sunlight for a while; probably not much of a drama in UK or "the mainland", but in outback Australia (or Iraq) it would really make your cam-cream run.......
Possibly but Canada used Walnut on FNs until the end of the cold war. We trained for NBC regularly...never even heard of that concern.Quote:
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Continue with the installation of the Butt with original parts and pieces adapted to replace the original, I do not have like the n° 135.
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The replacement (similar treadth)
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works with my mini lathe
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A poor man in a poor country!
The FN MAG with others machines guns (all airsoft guns)
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The wood butt is a lot more pleasant to use after it has been in the sun for a few hours.
The only drawback is that every time NBC warfare comes up: delete wood, insert "wash and wear".
Anybody have experience with both types in serious COLD?