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hello
I am looking for information on the size and number of rings parker hale
to mount a scope PECAR 4X10 (size tube 26mm ) and lens size 49.5 mm
on Parker Hale M20 Scope Block and Parker Hale M21 Mount
then I want to know the size of the flat part of the hand guard
or if you know someone who makes repro because I imagine that for the original, I can dream in color
thank you in advance
Parker Hale Rings :
25mm scope = RAHS3 rings
26mm scope = RAHS4 rings
For the RAHS4 you'll probably be looking at £80+ / US$120 (on ebay) - only a couple of shelves below the hens teeth
hello
thank you very much
I hope that some hens teeth :)
Sadly now, like rocking horse poo. Good luck in your search but they must be High Speed otherwise you'll be wasting a lot of ammo zeroing;)
I do not really understand the meaning
I do not speak much English
you say parker hale rings are crap??
He is saying that they are rare.:)
Ha Ha.....how we English use our terms of reference in such a Cavalier fashion.
My apologies to you old chap. No they are the ones you need to seek out in High Speed, they are what they were designed for.
Alternatives from a few American Companies but not as good.
They do come up on auction sites from time to time, but raise good money:wave:
Just checked my spares box and found a pair of RHAS3 rings in excellent condition. Not the ones you need but someone else might need them.
Are you trying to make an Enforcer copy? Or mount a telescope onto a 7.62mm No4 rifle?
I own
a longbranch # 4 mk1 DCRA in 7.62 with forged heavy barrel that looks a lot already enforcer, but better is a longbranch DCRA ;)
extractor and mag are 7.62
the peep sight is a tz4/47
she makes 1/2 "at 100m with 155gr and 44.5 gr varget
I have a 4x10 pecar so why not install it
I just found a handguard (I am told that it is an original) we see
finding no Rahs .4
I have rahs.3 I'll engineered
thank you very much for your help
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Lavol. If you want to SPOIL your rifle by making it into a copy of an Enforcer - which it isn't and never will be, then go ahead and drill the body for the rings. But if you want a good, competitive telescope rifle that LOOKS like an enforcer but remains unchanged - UNLIKE a permanently changed Enforcer copy, then just put a steel one-piece scope rail onto it. Steady as a rock and available from Brian at BDL Ltd in SC.
I know some with a less engineering bent/talent than me (if you'll excuse my pre-emptive strike chaps......) will tell you that drilling the radial breeching up/breech ring is a satisfactory way to go but in REAL engineering terms, it ain't and never will be. It's crap. And the Enforcer was ALWAYS the third best option that the then Home Office settled for because they were a) available, b) British, c) most cops were brought up on Enfields and d) cheap - because the government already owned them. They aren't my words, but the words of Major George Sxxxxxx who was running the Home Office advisory team at the time. The way to go is the BDL one piece solid-as-a- rock mount.
Just my 2c's worth before you start to drill, tap and eventually spoil a good rifle! I have my steel helmet at my side, awaiting the incoming from the Enforcer fiends...................
thank you for your advice
it is already pierced when I bought
I never drill rifle otherwise, I like milsurp in their state
I know I'll never do an enforcer of DCRA,
but I like the look of a enforcer and as he is already prepared to receive the bases parker hale,
I already have scope, then i make myself a nice present
and if I see that the gun shoots so well, and does not keep its zero
I resell the scope, the base and rings and return to peep sight that I 'much appreciates
for the bdl mount, I had already noticed this article and thought it was the best for a No. 4 drilled without anything
I am doing my project Hunting Rifle
from a No. 4 longbranch receiver and longbranch barrel 308
and I take this mount
thank you again for your advice
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You need to be aware that you cannot mount the scope with the PH 4/47 sight in place (it will foul the rings)
This is partly the reason that the Enforcer uses the PH 5E/4 sight which is set back to the rear.
You will also find that if you do manage to find a PH5E/4 sight ( which is more difficult to find than the RAHS4 rings) that you will not be able to use the safety. There was a special safety made for the Enforcer and you will NOT find one of these.
I had the opportunity to shoot Lavoltiges' rifle last winter . Several friends and I took turns and put all our shots in one ragged hole in the same target at 100 yards. Well, there was an exception, but the kid was brought up on telescopic sights, not apertures :lol: He was about an inch off...
Alan,
You took the words out of my mouth on the PH sight
If I'm reading this post correctly the original enquiry appertained to what rings would be required for the enquirers rifle?
Don't know if it just me but the responses on here lately seem to have more to do with folks opinions or commercial acquaintances and or links to a certain auction site than actual answers, or is it just me?
Simon,
Agreed...................... but I have been PM'd and responded to Tantanka's response off the main thread on the matter, who in turn is supplying the info to his friend who started the thread who doesn't speak a lot of English.
The other info is still relevant to him and what he seeks to achieve.
From the original post we did not know what the OP had, or wanted to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon
He could have had an Enforcer mising the scope and rings - having bought a scope he now needed the rings.
I dont think anyone would hesitate to suggest ebay as possibly the best source in the world for hard to get parts.
It was as the thread progressed and not until post 12 that we found out that he is trying to build an Enforcer and it was suggested that he could not do it with the parts he already had ( 4/47 and safety).
I think anyone trying to build, or resurect, an Enfield ( or anything else) would be grateful for any leads that would help them source the parts they need - but maybe its just me !!!
Simon, since you asked. It's just you! There. No commercialisation, just a straight answer to your question. Nothing more or less............
But as I often say. If you or anyone doesn't like my going off at slight tangents, then simply don't read past the part you've lost interest in. Much as I do with some other subscribers.
Nothing wrong with making a clone. The "real deal" not always available or within the budget. Seeing more No4T's, L42's and target rifles clones appearing at the range these days. Ron
Beginning to see more No.4T's than were made I think.:rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by muffett.2008
As long as no attempt is made to counterfeit the markings and misrepresent the end product, no harm done.
I know I would not alter a nice original piece by drilling and tapping, but if the damage is already done, why not?
once again, I thank the people of this forum for information supplied, especially with my English, it should not be always easy to read me
I know ebay and do not always appreciate the artificial bidders : Mad:
as all owners of milsurp, I have a big list as the arm of all the stores that can provide parts :D
but it is always good to share knowledge even Commercial
right here is my opinion
on my barrel, there are marks
DD (E) 24720/SK
D (with a half-bar across) 69 392 / K
and more forward on the barrel BB306
you know what it can match as manufacturer
I tried, but I have not found
sometimes too much information , kills information
Totally agree Ron, as long as its not done with a good honest Milsurp, I,ve a few repro/clones myself but all bought in that state, just needed a bit of TLC to get up to spec etc, one of which I recently spent some time onQuote:
Originally Posted by rgg_7
That has been done by a well established business in the UK, one of which recently come to light on this forum, an original rifle with a quick makeover and sold with a story that makes the " wizard of Oz" look true, at least Dick Turpin wore a mask....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tatanka
Your barrel was manufactured by Enfield in 1969 as a target replacement barrel. Profile is same as Envoy and some of the later Enforcers. BB306 is the steel grade.These were sold in Canada by "International Montreal", Quebec. Your DCRA rifle was rebarrelled. Should be very accurate. Ron
thank you rgg7