It is on a 1942 Longbranch. In the picture it is just behind the trigger guard on the but stock. It also appears on the receiver forward of the bolt next to a South African proof. Is it a Canadian proof? Thank you.
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It is on a 1942 Longbranch. In the picture it is just behind the trigger guard on the but stock. It also appears on the receiver forward of the bolt next to a South African proof. Is it a Canadian proof? Thank you.
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The top stamp is the interlaced L and B for Long Branch. The stamp underneath is the Canadian military C-broad arrow. The bottom mark is an inspectors mark. Let's see some more pictures. Looks like a nice rifle.
I thought it was the Canadian one but I hadn't seen one in person before. Thanks.
Pictures of the rest of the rifle. Can't really tell from the picture, but the stock is like a patch work. Each piece is slightly different shade.
In the last picture above, the "S" on the heel of the butt means that it's a short size. The buttstocks came in 4 lengths.
I don't see a South African mark on the receiver ring. That would be an arrow inside a small "U."
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This is not a South African mark next to a Canadian one?
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Originally Posted by Mikesm44
Looks more like several attempts to strike a Canadian mark with a blunt stamp...
Looks more like a double struck C /|\ mark to me. A Union of South Africa mark is like the one pictured on the PH5A sight I used to own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikesm44
I agree - not the broad arrow in a U (Union of South Africa), this is likely a Canadian mark.
OK...enough guessing... This is the C Broad arrow Canada marked it's weapons with. The barrel ring is a poor mark that was embellished and then re-struck. The butt heel is the S of a small marked butt. The others are all C Broad arrows...the South Africa mark of course is clearly something else...
In case you doubt me...I'm Canadian...
Okay, I don't disbelieve you, it just looked like a not well stuck South African mark. Does the "U" have to have those little tails? These pics are from another rifle a Savage all matching and I thought they were SA as well. Let me know if I am wrong.
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THAT mark looks like the SA marking...serif's are commonly deleted from stamp sets...minor detail...
Those are Union of South Africa (1910 - 1961) acceptance marks.
Okay thanks guys. For a second there I was like "man I must be really confused."
The markings on the forearm forward of the front guard screw are South African. That replacement woodwork was prevalent until a few years ago. I sold tons of it and still have new hand guards. I'm not sure if the wood was made in England under S/A contract or produced in South Africa. Opinions?
It ain't a Proof Stamp. You don't put them on woodwork.
Do you mind elaborating on what it IS then?
Inspection stamp...he's right...
Regarding the pic in the original post,Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
The mark closest to the trigger guard is of course a "B" imposed over an "L", which as we all know is the wartime Longbranch mark.
The roundish one below it is the mark for postwar Canadian Arsenals Limited which was a govt owned enterprise that took over Longbranch after the war. Looking closely at that symbol, you should see that the round part is actually a stylized "C" with an "A" and "L" integrated into it.
Beautiful rifle BTW.
Factory, ownership, inspector. The "C Broad Arrow" is a gov't ownership mark and not a factory "Canadian Arsenals Ltd" mark. That buttstock was produced prior to the CAL changeover. Late production CAL butts have a tiny "A inside a C" stamped on as the factory mark instead of the "B inside an L". They're hard to find too. Anybody got spares? The spare wartime LB butts are common.
Sure Brian, you're right. The same factory that produced these marked parts was the one that evolved into CAL, so I don't really see the difference. The very same men that applied the earlier marks now applying the CAL... the whole thing is gone now. CAL would have basicly been started at the same time the FNs went into production.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Dick
I think it changed from SAL to CAL post WWII in '46 or '47 if memory serves. There is no difference whatsoever except for the markings.