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hello
I picked up a P17 taregt regulated by fulton
after stripping the paint on the gun
I discovered a white barrel, blued with no markings resembling barrel enforcer etc. ..
the barrel is hammered
finishing at the junction of the canon seems odd to me
if someone could renseugner me
thank you in advance
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I think it's just the way the end has been upset to form the breech - unless the hammering process stopped at this point and what we see is the original diameter, more or less. Enfield made barrels for a number of actions at this point, sold through the National Rifle Association - there was closer co-operation between the NRA and the MoD at this point than there would be now. Most of its staff would be ex-military and had connections.
A washer has been used to bring the headspace to the right dimension - again normal by this point.
thank you
Here are pictures of the re-blued rifle
and stripped butt this horrible painting
remains only to the ssay
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Very nice.
Actually the paint was original to the barrel from the factory at Enfield.
The area over the chamber would have been hammer-forged also, but it has been machined to a smooth surface.
I had one of these barrels that was an unthreaded blank and the area over the chamber had been machined in the same way.
That should be a deadly accurate rifle. The barrels were known for their long "lives". I was told 5000 rounds before any serious loss of accuracy, but that was only one opinion, albeit a well qualified one.
I've seen lavoltiges' rifle and I fully intend to beg him to bring it to the range next time I drop by...
It is an interesting piece of hardware.
Where the barrel shoulder meets the receiver looks to me like the barrel was at one time removed by cutting a relief groove on the barrel. I seem to recall that Numrick Gun Parts ??? was selling these barrels with a washer to make them usable.
john
That was standard on these barrels from new. Peter Laidler has explained all this in depth on the Lee Enfield forum. This is the same barrel as used on the L42A1, L39A1, and Enfield "ENVOY" target rifle.
Yes, it was used on SLRs as well to bring the headspace up to gauge standard and various washers were available through the supply system to do it.
washers or bushings should never be used with square threads...
you loose the crush at the shoulder, it removes some safety from the weapon as well.
no such weapon as a P17, m1917. sorry one of my pet peeves. lol
barrel was likely roll forged rather then hammer forged, all 1917 barrels were hammer forged.
shims and bushing were common use on V threads. this rifle is correct having it...just wanted to clarify the safety issue with anyone thinking they can do so with the scrap barrels that have had the cut at the shoulder for removal.
1917 Barrels being made, hammer forged, drawn, chambered, sight cuts...
Stock Footage - Rifle bars, stocks and trigger guards being manufactured at a factory in the United States.
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1917 Barrels being made, hammer forged, drawn, chambered, sight cuts...
Stock Footage - Rifle bars, stocks and trigger guards being manufactured at a factory in the United States.
Interesting footage. Looks like forging the receivers in the first shots. Reminds me of the information that was posted back on that other forum years ago about the workers at Eddystone heating the billets to white heat so they could do all three forging operations on one heat. Probably the reason so many/all the Eddystones up to about 70,000(?) seem to have been made into DP or EY rifles even when hardly used.
receivers were forged at Midvale, as its posted, these are barrels being made.. likely this is the winchester plant.
I remember AE Clarke had the Agency for selling the Enfield hammer forged barrels here in the UK.
I have a dozen or so P14/M17 with 7.62mm Barrels, they normally have Enfield hammer forged barrels, Schultz & Larsen and occasionally BSA Special heavy barrels.
Its very common to see these set up with these barrel shims,