I see Numrich sell a repro of the Case, STG, No 8 mk I for $139.95 (see Sniper Scope, No. 32, MKII, Reproduction Gun Parts | 1249080 | Numrich Gun Parts )
Is there a supplier of these in the UK or Europe?
Rob
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I see Numrich sell a repro of the Case, STG, No 8 mk I for $139.95 (see Sniper Scope, No. 32, MKII, Reproduction Gun Parts | 1249080 | Numrich Gun Parts )
Is there a supplier of these in the UK or Europe?
Rob
Rob, I don't know of anyone in the UK that markets that specific make of repro tin, but you can also get either square or rounded tins from AAS in France. I googled 'AAS Militaria France' & it took me straight to his web site. The only problem is that his are rather more expensive, at 185 euros for a square tin & 195 for the rounded version.
Happy New Year & ATB.
Not in Europe, but check out Wayne Machine Inc. - we supply gun parts and vehicle parts. in Taiwan. They may well be the producers of these and other vintage scopes, along with many other current and vintage military vehicle, gun and ordnance parts. I shot them an email re some parts, and once the shipping was figured out, and a bank wire completed, I had the parts in my hand a week later.
I know a small importer or two here in Canada who have been bringing in stuff directly from them.
I think I bought one from numrich a couple of years ago - they shipped it here (blighty).
Stencollector,
Boy, that is extremely useful! Seems to be the likely source of all the repro stuff we've been seeing. I will send them an email, and while enquiring about one, I'll ask the price of a batch of these, maybe I could arrange a group order for UK forum members. When I get a price, I'll let everyone know.
yours
Rob
Rob,
With my curious hat on, I too wanted to see what this guy could conjure up and see the level of his typical Chinese copying technique, and emailed him in November, and to date no reply.
It has to be said some of their machining techniques are brilliant on what is invariably cheaply bought British tooling, but a lot I have to say is crap and would not provide a consistent group using their scope mount or scope, unless someone can report to the contrary! They probably lead on scope gimmickry and mass produced air rifle scopes, but I don't think they can match a British made original and therefore would not be fit for purpose in my opinion.
Hi Gil9713
Sorry if my original post wasn't clear - but I'm not after a repro No. 32 'scope nor the mount, just the tin.
I have just been lucky enough to import from Brian Dick a 1944 No4 (T) in it's transit case. The rifle and its No32 Mk3 scope and mount are absolutely superb, and all 100% original. However, I lack the scope tin, and it is thus the tin which I am seeking.
I'm reminded of the old saying: "It doesn't matter if you have lost your virginity, as long as you still have the box it came in".
In this case, I have the virginity but not the box.
Rob
Rob,
No worries, I'll see if he gets back to me and let you know what he charges for one. It must be the Chinese Autumn in Taiwan or hibernation, as its nots long before they go off for a month on their Chinese New Year Celebrations in February
Gil
RobD
I have a spare reproduction tin that could be for sale (round edge type).. John at. DS-Solutions somtimes has them in stock,
I'm looking at reproducing the square edge type, but working with a local fabricator could take time as bigger jobs take priority.
Rob,
Certainly more reliable than China mate:thup:
I bought one from Numrich. Had to pay VAT and Post Office handling fee on import : ( Tin is OK but only one screw fixing takes the other is slightly out. However I've since read on this forum that that was quite common with the originals.
Do they try to replicate all the bumph stamped on the lid like the NSN etc as well?
Skiprat, PM sent
Rob
Gents,
I got a reply this morning from Shawn Hssu of Wayne's Machine shop in Taiwan with a Product list attached, but still waiting for the price list. First thing he asked was how many do I want.......that old question from the Far East. I will pres him for a price on the 4T scope case as a starter.
Anyway, here are his products:
Scope & Scope Mount & Accessory
WM0267A -- Mauser 98 Low Turret Scope Mounts with split rings
WM0272X -- Russia Mosin Nagant 91/30 Scope Mount
WM0361A1~11 -- Mount with Ring and Levers, Griffin & Howe Mount
WM0281A -- Ak-47 Low Side Scope Mount
WM0387A-2 -- PU Mosin-Nagnt Original Rail with Screw Set
WM0361A-12 -- Mount Base Plate, Grffin & Howe Mount
WM0259A -- Mauser K98 Swept Back Mount
WM0175A -- Prong Scope Mount, Tokarev SVT 40 Rifle
WM0268A -- Mauser 98 Low Turret Scope Mounts Closed Rings (九九九九九九)
WM0058A -- Scope Mount with 1/8" Allen Wrench, M1 Carbine ( 九九)
Small Firearm Scope
WM0207A -- Mauser 98K Short Scope Mount (九九98K九九九)
WM0355A-6X -- ZF-39 ZIELVIER 6X Scope
WM0355A-4X -- ZF-39 ZIELVIER 4X Scope
WM0295A -- Shim Kit, Mauser 98 Split Turret Mount 4-Piece
ZF-4 Scope, German G43/K43 Sniper Rifle
WM0358A -- ZF-4 Scope Can with Shoulder Strap (ZF-4九九九九九九九)
WM0260A -- ZF-4 Scope, German G43/K43 Sniper Rifle
M84 Scope for M1 Garand
7312541 -- M1D Scope Mount Base (M1D九九)
7312554 -- M1D(M84) Scope Mount Ring Bracket Assembly
7597774 -- M84 scopes for M1 Garand
Howitzer Scope
8588780 -- M109 Elbow Telescope 1240-00-823-5612
8299680 -- Telescope, Elbow:M92D
7597781 -- Elbow Telescope M16A1D, M101 105mm Howitzer (九九九 M16) 1240-00-759-7781
Military Vehicle Scope
8587340 -- Telescope Panoramic M-115 1240-00-895-9186
8213037 -- Telecope, Panoramic M12A7S
7043549 -- M17 Periscope - repairment
九九九九九九九
6650-00-704-3549
Hi Gil - it's sort of stencilled on rather than stamped. 2nd pic shows it all fits perfectly inside. This is the numrich one. No comments pls on mk1 scope adjusting device there! It's my only scope tin and is a good place to keep it safe... I'm sure you'll be fine to buy from the far east one - as long as you want 100+ ;) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gil9713
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Not even good ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by PrinzEugen
I do not have any problems using the adjusting tool and plan to publish an article on how I do it at some point. (The nub of the article is get the rifle held securely and do some PRACTICE!)
That's fine beery - just not the horrid nasty beastly ones ;). (I meant comments of the 'why's it there when it's not a mk1 scope' variety).Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerhunter
Look forward to reading it - never quite got to grips with my mk1 in terms of using the tool to be honest - on my 43 4t I've got it zeroed at 300 yards and have just left it there, remembering the settings, rather than properly calibrating it.
There is no need to EVER use that tool again if you just do what I'm about to say. I listened to another Armourer who learned it the day he found that the tools, both of them, were crap........ Slightly loosen off the lead screw locking nut - the OUTER of the two reverse slotted headed shafts. It's quite wide on a Mk1 and 2, narrow on a Mk3 and L1A1. Now tighten it down so that it nips up the lead screw. That is the INNER/CENTRAL of the two reverse slotted headed shafts.
Set range to 300 or 400 or whatever range you are zeroing rifle. 2 or 3 warmers into the bank followed by a 5 round check group, fore-arm rested, over a sandbag
Using ONLY the lead screw, hold the drum at the set range and zero the rifle using the forumla C=D+R. You know that 1 click is 1" at 100 yards and you KNOW how much a click equates to on the drum, so use this as a good/accurate method of adjusting the lead screw to zero.
Sit back, take flask from range bag and drink mug of tea. Gloat at others while doing so.
If anyone wants me to simplify the above, just ask.
If you are required to take your rifle and reenact the advance into Antwerp or ambush a high ranking passer-by crossing the Reichwald, then is the time to lock up the lead screw lock nuts
Peter,
How disappointing. You mean to say I can ditch the 45 minute lesson using the 7.62 round? ha ha!
Reply back from Shaun in Taiwan.
Here are his prices for those interested:
WM0296A ENFIELD 32 TELESCOPE 10 OFF $260 EA
WM0297A CARRYING CASE 10 OFF $85 EA
WM0298A LEATHER COVERS ENFIELD SCOPE 32 10 OFF $15 EA
WM0300A TOOL KEY ENFILED 31 SCOPE 10 OFF $17 EA
WM0302A BASES ENFIELD 32 SCOPE MOUNT 10 OFF $27 EA
WM0188A SCOPE MOUNT ENFIELD 32 SCOPE 10 OFF $49 EA
ALL IN STOCK SURPRISE SURPRISE
HAS ANYBODY ACTUALLY TRIED THESE MOUNTS OUT AND GOT CONSISTENT RESULTS, BECAUSE IN MY BOOK THEY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE RIFLE BESIDES THE PADS OF COURSE!!
Images of products
Hi Gil, did you, please, recieved any more info from Wayne Taiwan about No.32 Scope? I was writing them and still have no answer. I am interested in whole set or even the scope with mount. Went through all the blind spots as ITAR from Numrich, etc...
Or do you have another source for No 32 with shipping to EU?
Were you interested in only an rep? I have an original one, I'll probably be selling soon, if your interested.
Chuck
I know its an old thread but If anyone is interested I have a few on the way, although the outside of the tin will be in Land rover Bronze Green as per the original.
I,ll be listing them on that auction site, but if any Milsurp member is interested then PM me, I will have 8 tins left plus will come with a leather lens cover (they are not the best repro item the lens cover but will protect the lens)
I,m not expecting any purists to be knocking on my door, but if your looking to protect your expensive No32 scope then let me know.
Savlis,
Apologies, I must have missed your original request.
I have not dealt with the chap in Taiwan but knew of his existance copying No 4 ancillaries for those who wanted exactly that,.... a copy to protect their scope. He does other stuff to, but wouldn't want to give an opinion on his number 32 scope copies until I had seen one, perhaps someone else has bought one from him and can relay.
I'm afraid its not my bag using less than the real thing. My advice would be, save up and buy the real deal if you want to keep things authentic.
I got one of these repro cans, and it certainly looks good.
But I couldn't screw the No 32 scope onto it because
(a) the distance between the rear screw socket and the front spigot was about 2mm off
(b) the threads in the rear screw socket were not the correct pitch.
A bit of bending sorted out (a) and Roger Payne v kindly lent me a tap to fix (b).
Thanks for the info Rob, I,ll give them a tweak before painting and drill out the front screw hole as per original cans and send a tap down the rear if needed.
I don't suppose the Taiwanese guy has ever held a 32 scope in his hands to ensure it fits home. He is probably going by a drawing someone sent him done by hand!
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Tins arrived and they are excellent, on the ones I,ve opened didn't need any tweaking, the threads are correct and bracket fits the spigot like a glove.....
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He's improved the interior fixtures. I bought about ten off him about ten years ago, shortly after they appeared. I removed all of the internals & replaced them with much better examples that Graham Smith made. They were great afterwards, as I've always thought that the tin itself is a nicely done copy of the originals let down by the fixtures. However, he seems to have got it right now........
Does he still put spurious military markings on them? I asked him not to on mine.
ATB
Rog, no markings on them the interior is faultless AFAIK have gone over about 5 of them, only one tin which looks like a mistake was made and rectified but I,ll keep this one.
Looks like he's got his act together then!