Expanding My Armory

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02-21-2014, 04:35 AM
GolfBravoUSMC

Expanding My Armory

Added a Underwood to my collection Ser # 1,358,XXX. That puts me halfway between arming a Color Guard and a Fire Team. This 1942 beauty joins my 1944 Winchester and Inland. If anyone would care to give me an estimate of it's current value I would appreciate it.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...cfa563bb-1.jpg

With some parts swapping I brought it up to Underwood correct except for the Barrel Band. I have the Leaf Site set aside for now until I zero in the horizontal position with the type 2 on the weapon.

Some of the Underwood components are not the proper 1942 circa, most notably the hammer and the stock. I'll have to keep my eyes open for them along with a type 1A barrel Band.. Probably going to take a while.

The current type 2 stock (High to Low) will have to do for now and will serve as my shooter. I redid the finish and had my quality control check it out.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...80aa1b9b-1.jpg

It has a fair acceptance stamp.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...9b9eea7a-1.jpg

The wood has a very nice grain.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...e384ec04-1.jpg

My quality control official is 20 (97 People Years) and blind so she gives me a lot of slack on my refinish jobs.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...69d05281-1.jpg

This was my 10th stock redo and I have 6 more in the pipeline. It's a labor of love.
02-21-2014, 06:47 AM
CINDERS

Well the cato looks pleased with your efforts nice rifle...:thup:
02-21-2014, 10:11 AM
tspence35

I will interpret for the Cat. "Nice carbine but why didn't he use the money that he spent on the carbine and instead spend it on more expensive cat food". By the way, good looking Underwood.
02-21-2014, 11:23 AM
GolfBravoUSMC

Don't worry about the Inspector, KiloBravo has made sure she is well taken care of and she has a excellent Healthplan. Without the Vet bills including last years UC Davis Radiation treatment on her Thyroid, the Armory might be working towards arming a Squad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tspence35

I will interpret for the Cat. "Nice carbine but why didn't he use the money that he spent on the carbine and instead spend it on more expensive cat food". By the way, good looking Underwood.
02-21-2014, 06:18 PM
CINDERS

The cat and the carbine

2nd pic Cat "Hmmm, not quite sure about this type of food it smells oily but not fishy oily, I think my pet human has erred here as I cannot eat this but the wood looks good for a scratching post !"

3rd pic "Maybe if I sit here it will go away it smells ugh! just bad and is very noisy, gosh I am bored now where is my pet human so I can annoy him."

Sorry for the off thread post but I just could not help this one, hope cato enjoys a long, prosperous and happy life with your family.

Cheers :thup:
02-21-2014, 07:08 PM
WarPig1976

Don't be fooled by cats!! The only reason they're nice to us is because we're bigger,, otherwise they'd swat us around the house and when they got bored bite our head off!!
02-21-2014, 08:20 PM
INLAND44

That's a fact. There's one thing true of all cats - no matter how big or small, they're all cats. And I'm glad of it!
02-21-2014, 11:54 PM
GolfBravoUSMC

Quote:

Originally Posted by INLAND44

That's a fact. There's one thing true of all cats - no matter how big or small, they're all cats. And I'm glad of it!

The Cat considers herself a small person.

Took the Underwood to the range, wow, nice tight groups. Even though it was a calm 70 degree day I had to dial in a lot of left windage. My Winchester and Inland are the same way, must be a Carbine thingy. I'm going to move the sights a little left in the receivers so I have a good range of motion should I really need some left windage due to conditions.

As a newbie I learned from a fella on another forum regarding the proper installation of the receiver into the recoil plate after cleaning. I was having some real issues with the Inland spraying shots high right after the first couple of rounds. I tried changing rear sight, front sight recoil plate and barrel band and got some relief. What really made the difference was inserting the receiver into the recoil plate and then holding the barrel next to the stock channel with one hand and rapping the butt up against the receiver with my other hand. What a difference, now my shots are totally under control.

Sorry to bore you old salts.
02-22-2014, 12:35 AM
DaveHH

I live with a Russian Blue

It is an amazing animal, just like a dog. Comes when called, loves me forever, can't shut up and I've just recently learned from him that he really knows what I should be doing at all times. If you want a genuinely different cat find a Russian Blue.

I'd like to find an Underwood some day. I think that Underwood and IBM were really great companies that took this work very seriously. I would bet that they are every bit as good or better than the NPM carbines.
03-08-2014, 10:41 PM
GolfBravoUSMC

Found Type 1 Stock for 1942 Underwood

I found a Type 1 Stock for my 1942 Underwood. Got a great deal but found some issues.

The stock was advertised as no rebuild stamps but the pictures supplied in the auction showed GI initials scratched into the stock cheek pad on the left side.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...a67cfce0-1.jpg

After I cleaned it up the "U." Underwood Elliott Fisher stamp became clear. I called this to the attention of the seller and he was very good about it. I don't think he knew the rebuild stamp had been monkeyed with.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...5373884b-1.jpg

Other than that it is a great stock, ding free with no cracks or major problems. There is a small arsenal plug repair along the forward left rail that is barely noticeable and a very small chip out of the escutcheon hole. It also has been cut High to Low. It appears that it has only been exposed to light sanding.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...2660845a-1.jpg

The Underwood UEF/GHD cartouche is strong.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...s2576659-1.jpg

I've married the stock up with a matching finish M-U hand guard. There is a problem with the HG, one of the two rivets is missing. It's such a great match I need to save it. Anyone know where I can get a rivet or get it repaired?

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...62e8f5f9-1.jpg

The sling well is marked RMC, does anyone know what the other marks represent?

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...276e262c-1.jpg

For a Franklin it was a good deal. I personally think the rebuild stamp, the cut from High to Low, the adjustable rear sight and type 3 barrel band fit the true character of the weapon.

Having said that I have a ".U." flip sight in my parts drawer and I sniffing around for a unmarked type 1A barrel band. May go temporarily with a Repro barrel band just for the look.

I love the grain in this stock.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...bad92afd-1.jpg
03-11-2014, 01:54 PM
painter777

Slingwell markings:
RMC, F, T, and Bomb
Don't recall what the F and T stood for, maybe shift and line location?
RMC= Rock-Ola made for Underwood....... Thus the nice wood!
You know some early UEF stocks are found without the CC next to the Boxed letters.

Is the Rivet completely missing?
Handguard Liner Rivet Gun Parts | 983280 | Numrich Gun Parts

Later,
Charlie-Painter777
03-11-2014, 04:32 PM
GolfBravoUSMC

Quote:

Originally Posted by GolfBravoUSMC

Added a Underwood to my collection Ser # 1,358,XXX. That puts me halfway between arming a Color Guard and a Fire Team. This 1942 beauty joins my 1944 Winchester and Inland. If anyone would care to give me an estimate of it's current value I would appreciate it.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...cfa563bb-1.jpg

With some parts swapping I brought it up to Underwood correct except for the Barrel Band. I have the Leaf Site set aside for now until I zero in the horizontal position with the type 2 on the weapon.

Some of the Underwood components are not the proper 1942 circa, most notably the hammer and the stock. I'll have to keep my eyes open for them along with a type 1A barrel Band.. Probably going to take a while.

The current type 2 stock (High to Low) will have to do for now and will serve as my shooter. I redid the finish and had my quality control check it out.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...80aa1b9b-1.jpg

It has a fair acceptance stamp.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...9b9eea7a-1.jpg

The wood has a very nice grain.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...e384ec04-1.jpg

My quality control official is 20 (97 People Years) and blind so she gives me a lot of slack on my refinish jobs.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...69d05281-1.jpg

This was my 10th stock redo and I have 6 more in the pipeline. It's a labor of love.

Quote:

Originally Posted by painter777

Slingwell markings:
RMC, F, T, and Bomb
Don't recall what the F and T stood for, maybe shift and line location?
RMC= Rock-Ola made for Underwood....... Thus the nice wood!
You know some early UEF stocks are found without the CC next to the Boxed letters.

Is the Rivet completely missing?
Handguard Liner Rivet Gun Parts | 983280 | Numrich Gun Parts

Later,
Charlie-Painter777

I double checked the dimensions of the I cut and they are correct. I saw another Underwood I cut on the market recently and it also lacked the cross cannons stamp next to the UEF/GHD cartouche. Since my weapon is ser # 1385xxx I think I have a good match.

The missing rivet from the HG is no more!

Semper Fi