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Looking like a pretty nice WRA. Not original, few replaced parts like Inland T2 barrel band, White T3 hammer.
5th picture down....... Look at the color line on the barrel across the stamped W.
Possible hiding T3 band marks?
Hand guard is a WRA.
Thoughts?
Charlie-Painter777
Winchester M1 Carbine .30 Late WW2 No Import : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
Shadow is very noticeable. Hard to see, but looks like a 5.8 SN. That would be late 44 or early 45. The round bolt started in the Spring of 44. And the angled slide also started in early 44. I don't see an "EW" on the safety. Because of the W, a lot of guys mistakenly put the White hammer into Winchesters.
Mine dates to Mar 1944. The Serial # is a 562XXXX according to the description. The HG should be a two rivet, the stock should probably have WRA/GHD, flat bolt is OK. My guess is that it is corrected.
After buying a couple late Winchester buttplates advertised as Inland, at least I know the buttplate on this carbine is correct! - Bob
Jim, I can see the "EW" - it's there.
Bob,
I see an "EW" on the mag catch, but not the safety.
Could the gouge by the oiler slot have been cause trying to remove or install the oiler?
I think it's worth the current bid and more. But the reserve has not been reached yet.
Yep, I was looking at the mag catch. You could be right about that gouge in the stock. - Bob
Take a close look at the muzzel! Does it look recrowned?GK
Here is a blow up of serial number Attachment 50205
The carbine looks good, almost too good.
Did anyone notice the sling? The one shown on the rifle is a repro while the one shown with the real oiler is authentic.
Jim
His description explains that both slings are included. - Bob
I blew it up too, with my eyes that is still hard to read.Quote:
Originally Posted by phillydude
What does Firing pin: round, marked “W”, Winchester mean? Type 1, 2, or 3?
Still, worn shooters are going $700-$900. Interested in what the final price winds up being.
I see 5621518.
That is almost a twin to my 5,701,XXX Winchester. IIRC, there was mixed usage of stocks with and without WRA over GHD in the transition period. Examples of both have been seen.
Originally I thought it was 5.8. Being 5.6 puts it back to early/mid 44 and changes some things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Hollinger
Thanks Bill
:D:D:D I must add that mine is MUCH nicer!
Could the butt plate be a well worn Saginaw "Missing Dot"?Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
GolfBravoUSMC,
Here is a link to some Buttplate ID's, though I m sure there are errors:
M1 Carbine Buttplate Identification
A link here back to the auction and Buttplate in question:
Winchester M1 Carbine .30 Late WW2 No Import : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
Buttplates can really vary depending on how they were made. I seem to find some odd ones at times.
Many of us believe the dot missing @ 5 means a Saginaw plate, but more advanced collectors have stated the plates made by Springfield Armory had that same pattern.
Cheers,
Charlie-Painter777
Early RMC:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC07326-1.jpg
Mid-Late RMC:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC07329-1.jpg
2 Stan Pro S-S3:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC07334-1.jpg
One stamped inside out:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC04075-1.jpg
Early Inland-Early Underwood:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC07330-1.jpg
One 'Pimped by Bubba'
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC02237-1.jpg
Another I can't explain:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC04252-1.jpg
There are some that show up often, that we just aren't sure of what origin?
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ef5a1895-1.jpg
$1500 Reserve not met.......... Wow
Winchester M1 Carbine .30 Late WW2 No Import : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
Seller also has one of the James River/Rock Ola's at a buy it now for $1,195.00.
To me a used GI has so much more character!
This would be like buying a 'Twonkie'
James River/Rock-Ola M1 Carbine .30 NEW Free Ship : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
Charlie-Painter777
I blew it! Was looking at the spacing of the dots above and below the screw and missed the "missing dot." Thanks! - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by GolfBravoUSMC
Thanks Charlie-Painter777Quote:
Originally Posted by painter777
I went to the Chestnut Ridge site and I have an issue with their ID of Late Winchester. I believe it is a Third version of a Inland as described in the Riesch book page 112 top of table 4-5.
I think I'll take some pictures of my inventory and see what you all think I have vs what I believe. I've got a lot to learn.
Semper Fi
Charlie,
That last one you pictured is shown on a Howa stock on Jim Mock's website. - Bob
Didn't know he had a web site, can you post a link to it ?
U.S. Carbines during the American OccupationQuote:
Originally Posted by phillydude
Oh the Barvarian site, didn't know it was his lol
I think both his sites are in our M1 Carbine "sticky" threads at top of forum, unless I'm missing something... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by phillydude
Bavarian M1 Carbines (Post WWII M1 Carbines in Germany Austria)
M1 Carbines Incorporated (Post WWII commercially manufactured M1 Carbines)
Regards,
Doug