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Longbranch Enfield No4 MK1* T sniper rifle : Curios & Relics at GunBroker.com
Other than being non-matching, I think the base rifle is a little off. Barrel markings? Incorrect trigger guard?
Must say the price is getting up there. The seller is upfront about the condition of the scope. Peter is referenced.
You think the "rifle is a little off?"
Are you bidding on it? Or you must have different pictures if you are referencing barrel markings and trigger guard "issues"?
The owner (previous owner maybe?) is a member here so maybe you could ask him?
Are you up to play a little game? There is one thing that leaps out to me, but I doubt you've noticed it.
I am sure the reason for the game will be come apparent with the transference of knowledge to the forum by Lee Enfield so we may all learn about what to look for and the knowledge as always is well received.
Its a mismatched sniper rather than a bits together piece.
No. Have not and will not be. Already have one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Enfield
No. Just looing at the stock pictures on the site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Enfield
You are probably right. Perhaps you can share at some point. Looking to expand my knowledge and your help would be apprectiated. (by more then just myself)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Enfield
That is what I beleive, but there is still a piece missing from the trigger guard and the barrel import markings do not match the samples I have seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Enfield
Edit:
Thought I would be a bit more clear .... should it have the "hook" that acts as a stopper for the "Front Screw Guard Sling Swivel"?
Should the barrel be stamped "2.22 .... 18.5 Tons"? or is it different as it did not make it to England (do not see "England" proof stamp on receiver)
It does have the maltese cross on several parts and Savage rear sight. C-broad arrow on front scope pad. Should the Rifle Serial # not also be stamped into the wood?
Thanks
As usual I will again be torched but I really do not give a R's Rissole I this web site was for all to learn from those that know and have the experience to pass on gained knowledge to those of us me included that do not know because we led a sheltered childhood.
It is not seeing who can do it into the wind furthest but sharing your gained knowledge so we can pass it onto those that follow us as I do have a 14 y/o boy who is very keen to learn to shoot and look after my meagre 303 stable (he has already shot the one of my No.4's and loved it)
So at the risk of being type caste as a rebel rouser and in general a person who creates and instils havoc lets do the site a justice and be helpful to each other and not try to outdo each other with the grey matter.
As I am sure the founders would be a tad dismayed at turning the place into a competition of knowledge if I am wrong in my summation fine go right ahead and tear strips off me that's K as if your doing it to me then you are leaving someone else alone.
To the founding fathers of this site well done and keep the flame going :cheers:
Post script edit addition - Thanks Badger for pulling the sanity line into focus.
Sometimes expressing the written word on the Internet doesn't translate well, as compared to what the same folks would say verbally face-to-face. :rolleyes:
If we could please get back to the point of the thread and worry less about pi$$ing on each other's fire hydrants, I would appreciate it... :cheers:
I'm not an Enfield expert, but here's an Advisory Panel certified example of what an correct example should look like.
1945 Enfield No.4 Mk1*(T) Long Branch Sniper Rifle.
Just my layman's quick look comparison to the MKL example, indicates to me that none of the major components match. The scope (227-C), the scope bracket (90L8212), the butt wrist top (78-C) and the rifle (90L8115) itself, all have different serial numbers.
That would indicate to me that this rifle has been assembled from various different components.
Just my two cents .. ;)
Regards,
Doug
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[/COLOR]I apologise if my comments were a little short perhaps, recently I've noticed a irritating issue with this (and several other forums), members posting negative comments regarding sale items, which I've come to believe may be a tactic to reduce price, and other bidders.Quote:
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The single issue (regarding the rifle) which leaps out to me is that the cheek piece appears to be off of an earlier Long Branch sniper - I've never noted this Long Branch pattern on a 90L previously.Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
The other obvious issue is the use of a (converted??) Bren Chest....
Some people do not have scruples and do rely on the uninformed to gain the extra dollar from them thankfully the place has this web site so a person can ask the questions and be put on the straight and narrow without losing hard earned cash from a right but not quite right purchase.
And I am quite sure shill bidding goes on with flea bay to get what the seller wants dam hard to prove though........
I have the sad duty to inform the forum that this rifle previously belonged to Milsurps.com member Arado. He passed away suddenly and his firearms are being liquidated on Gunbroker.
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Originally Posted by Cantom
Cantom, if you could provide us with any further information such as an Obitiuary, we'd appreciate it. We'd like to add his name to our ++++ In Memoriam ++++ remembrance wall thread.
Regards,
Doug
Bren Chests were used for some of the early (T)'s.
The chest certainly looks kosher to me. It doesn't look like something somebody made up.
BTW, Wheaty did some fixes on the scope for me on this rifle, and today I took it to the range and sighted it in.
A very nice rifle!
REL, in their infinite wisdom, on some of their scopes soldered every single screw and adjustment on the scope. Thus it's next to impossible to do anything with it except leave it as it is.
On this rifle, the scope post was adjusted so it only adjusted a bit over to the left side of the tube, furthest it would move over was to the centre. I could not get the adjusting nut loose as it was soldered in place plus tight, so Warren did his magic on it.
Considering that the rifle, scope bracket and scope were mismatched, I'm very pleased with how this collimates...it's dead nuts.
What distances did you fire it at Tom?
I shot it on a 100 yard range only.
Would have been better but I was having magazine problems, the last round doesn't pick up reliably.
I got some incredible grunge out of the bore. I had cleaned it before with a boiling kettle and CLP, but only got some. But after some clean modern ammo today, plus 2 more boiling kettles, it's better than perfect.
Good collimation cannot be claimed after only firing at one distance. It's easy enough to zero a rifle at any particular range. The collimation comes in when you shoot several hundred yards further and see if, after adjusting the scope for the appropriate distance, it remains on target. If collimation is off, the error will be multiplied by the successive distance.
Good enough for the girls I go out with...