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MPs --- Not the average Grunt's favourite people by a long road.
But that's something they brought on themselves. We had a battalion sheriff that made his MPs live and mess with the infantry. He said that since they would live and die together, they better get used to being friends with the soldiers. They had far less problems overall then the units that allowed a private club for the MPs.
You talking about the senior NCO that was beating his wife. Or maybe the GI that was beating and raping a prostitute in an ally way. Or maybe the company commander who was relieved of his command because he tolerated a white supremacist gang in his company. Or maybe it was the Whites, against the Blacks, against the Puerto Ricans race riots. Or maybe it was the week long Friendship Festival that was shut down after the first night because drunken GIs went on a rampage, attacking visiting civilians and other GIs. Or maybe it was just the two GIs' that beat, robbed and crippled a fellow soldier walking alone at night. Or was it the GI who broke into his platoon leaders apartment and tried to rape the pretty young wife while his unit was in the field and he's on sick call. The stories go on ad nauseam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul S.
I am proud of my MP service. Now I'm just an old retired cop. (Proud of that service also).
A little sensitive are we?
No, Mate. You and I both know that there is good and bad in every bunch - MPs, gunners, or grunts. I'm referring to the MPs - and you know they exist - like the jeep full (as I witnessed in a US base camp in Vietnam in 1968) that drove around the camp shooting dogs with their .45s because they were bored and the Provost Marshall was on R&R Those ones, or the ones who make life miserable for all and sundry simply because they can.
An enemies bullet, bomb, mine or booby trap does not give two pinches of goat sh*t if your a grunt, driver, cook, storeman, corpsman, sniper, gunner, rifleman...................... and so on or what rank you hold.
It will still killya
Interesting...no, we didn't have things like that happen. We just didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonnie
No, not particularly sensitive. Just making the point that there are at least two sides to every story, sometimes more. Painting with a broad brush tends to cover that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul S.
I too speak from long experience...
That was the U.S. Army in the mid-seventies. Vietnam had torn the country apart politically and also the army. Serious drug use, race riots, crime. Whatever was going on inside the country was happening in the army also.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Yes sir, I'm well aware of exactly what context you spoke in. I was in from '74 to '08. I did lots of time on US posts, as we used to. You and I could get into specifics and other things right now that might prove tasteless to the observers here. I remember them all well...
All of that bad stuff happened and from what my dad told me "back in the day" it was hushed up and swept uner the rug. Most never heard of the bad things happening unless they were very close to it or a part of it.
For the sake of keeping it civil here let's not all get too wrapped around the axle over what happened and what did not. Each has their memories of their time in service. Please share them as we all would love to hear them. :thup: Thanks guys for your service to this and their respective countries. :beerchug:
Understood and agreed Bill, and I don't think we have any problems...