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Bought a complete National Match set up "Everything" Rare
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That rifle is crazy sexy Rick. Enjoy her.
~Matt
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Gotta love those early number guns...
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Not 1954
Because the M14 NM was long delayed by the select fire controversy, SA had to build many more NM M1s than planned. By 1959 they were about out of parts, and the lack of barrels was critical. They scrounged all over the ordnance system for tight barrels until 50,000 1953, 1954, and 1955s were found stored at Schenectady. The '54s were particularly high quality and SA grabbed them. That's why 1954 dates are the most common barrel found on Type 2 NM rifles built between 1960 and 1962.
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It has a 1960 code mark on the barrel, so that's when it was first built. The last four serial numbers should be written on the front face of the trigger housing. The hooded sight indicates a 1962 upgrade.
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Bob, no marks on the trigger housing but last 4 digits are in the stock barrel channel. Rick
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Very nice. One of my Type2 NM rifles is also a 6 digit but it is in the 258,000 range. Kind of adds to the cool factor.
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In case anyone wondered about the red bedding over the original here is a pic. I am thinking of trying to remove it. It is laid on and not cut in but it is also a part of the rifle history. The oringal owner has quite a few medals and placements with this rifle as does a friend of his and mine who used it in the 70's The owner retired from it in 1970 as he went to a Model 70 Rick B
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...05/iyy1t-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../05/xsk0-1.jpg
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I would leave it. As you said, it's part of it's history. Once removed, you can't put it back.
My opinion only, Bubba
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Are you sure it's not inset Rick? The bottom pic shows what I think is the normal type of bedding cut into the stock...in front of the red bedding.
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I had said the original correct bedding is there with the red laid over top. Is that what you meant?
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Yes, I thought you were inferring that the red bedding was all there was...sorry.
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Bedding
That's obviously not typical SA work. The clues suggest it was a 1960 Type 2 that was upgraded in or after 1962 by somebody else. That hooded aperture and 2A base was not approved until 1962 but it was common to add it to existing guns. The lack of serial on the trigger housing could indicate that trigger work was done and the original housing replaced, or the numbers were cleaned off in the process (Hoppe's takes it off easily). Pretty odd that it apparently was sold by DCM in 1964 like that. It also has the heart barrel stamp that I have not figured out yet, maybe that's a clue .
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Bedding
If the 1962 sight had been added by SA, the barrel should have the 1962 star code on it in addition to the 1960 mark.
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I know the owner well and he is also my Accountant. He has always been nothing but honest with me and sold this rifle to me for $2,000 so he wasn't out to take me. I spoke with him last night and he added nothing to this rifle ever and all that was done was the overcoat of bedding and True oil to the stock because he planned on shooting in all kinds of weather at the matches. He said there never were any marks on the housing and I trust him 100%. If I ever learned one thing from collecting it would be that nothing is written in stone. Guide lines are all we can go by. Rick B
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Amen, Rick. I'm thinking it came out of DCM like this, the papers look right. My question is who did the mods? Could it have been a service team and then turned back in to DCM? Dunno, it's not typical. Maybe the heart means something like "modified by user" or "returned to US inventory" ? All the rifles I have seen with the heart looked original, but there was no common thread that might provide a clue, all they did was eliminate my prior guesses :(
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Absolutely beautiful rifle Rick! Congrats and enjoy.
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bob seijas
[/COLOR]It has a 1960 code mark on the barrel, so that's when it was first built. The last four serial numbers should be written on the front face of the trigger housing. The hooded sight indicates a 1962 upgrade.
What is your take on the front sight being marked on the left side as opposed to the right ?? Also, any chance the rifle was rebuilt by SA in 1963 or at least had the NM/2A base installed in 1963, but kept it's original barrel from the 1960 build ??? I know the 77 barrel was the one normally used on 1963 builds, but the lack of the 1962 STAR code makes me wonder. Guess it really doesn't make much difference.
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My guess would be that the hammer was installed by the armorer that did the trigger work.
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That is truly a gem you have there Rick. Congratulations on a sweet rifle. Enjoy it :)
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Rifle sold for $148.00. I think (?) when the Army dumped out the NM Garands they were for for $95.00, all of the unsold NM's went to Greece. This is from a very distant memory. I was in high school then and didn't have $148.00 or $95.00. I worked summers at a pineapple cannery and made $1.40 per hour. But hours were hard to come by and I not even sure I earned $148.00 in the entire summer.
