Here ya' go. Big money for a staked receiver.
WWII Irwin Pedersen M1 Carbine Receiver-OG : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
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Here ya' go. Big money for a staked receiver.
WWII Irwin Pedersen M1 Carbine Receiver-OG : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
Crazy, but hey, it is an IP !
What is an original flip sight IP worth ? And a restored IP worth ? Reason I ask is I was asked to sell a collection of carbines,17 in all and there's 2 IP's
$1325.00 and with a sight base that closely resembles the moon. But, it is a real Irwin Pedersen! Considering completes are threw the roof I guess this isn't so bad.
Pieces sell for more than complete. The receiver is all the money on a mixmaster IP. And one can be made for a fair price with the receiver.
Try finding a Barrel for that receiver ! - the right date and proof mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenOC
Mixmasters don't really matter that much. An early Rockola or Underwood with P and go with it.
Ahh, but what kind of "P"? Not that it matters for a mixmaster but if one is attempting to "restore" to factory original ...
Exactly, if your going to build a mixmaster, why spend the money on an IP receiver. You would need a 2 or 3 of 43 barrel with P proof 6 1/2 inches down for a restoration. Try to find one of those !
were free issue barrels at that time required to be double proofed or might they exist with a single "p"?
To answer the question, two P proofs are not required for an IP to be considered correct.
I assume someone wanted this specific IP receiver and doesn't want to build it for someone else? Perhaps the serial number was wanted? How many people own an IP? If someone has one, does everyone ask if his barrel is an Underwood?
George has a bunch of them ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustship
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Originally Posted by tenOC
So by March 1943 the requirement that the free issue barrel manufacturers proof 100% of their barrels had been dropped?
TIA
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Originally Posted by CrossedCannons
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Thankyou. I've seen your "snippet" regarding proofing requirements by barrel manufacturers, but it unfortunately lacks any temporal data.
When was this first proofing transition of free issue barrels, from "100%" to "10%"? Later, I understand it went to 5%, and then back to 10%, but I'm really interested for now in just the duration of the first period, namely 100%, when 2 P's would have been "the standard"
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I watch them all the time when I'm in dream land.:lol: I had that receiver on my watch list just for the education value. It seems high compared to the 2 cmp ones that recently sold.
Chris
The one with the correct barrel went for the least. Just depends on who is watching I guess.
Future note to self see WB3 p 1675
Can you help with what it says?
Basically, you were right, 10oc, that 2 P's may not be required for an I-P "as built" configuration. In January 1943, the free issue barrel proofing policy at time of manufacture was changed from 100% to 10%. I was thinking that happened a little later, but didn't "know" for sure
Are you sure about the 6 1/2 inches? I have two IP's with what I believe are the original barrels. One with a serial number in the 3.2 mil range has an Underwood 11-42 barrel with two proofs; one 4 5/8 down and one 6 5/8 down. The second IP in the 1.7 mil range has an Underwood 3-43 barrel with one prooof which is 6 5/8 down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustship
My IPs have the P stamped 6 5/8" back from the tip. One has two Ps.
I'll buy that, just re measured, actually looks like between 6 1/2 to 6 5/8. My eyes aren't that good. Mine is a 1.77 with a 2-43 underwood barrel.
That's "close enough for government work"! :cheers: - Bob