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I posted these on another thread and decided to start a new thread with it and see where it goes.
1.Why is the drill sergeant yelling at me while I'm trying to field strip my Colt.....scratch!
2. Why is the enemy shooting at me can't they see I'm in the middle of cleaning my 1911A1....scratch!
3. Oops these things are really tight when they're new.... scratch!
I know they're a little long but you get the point.
If there's a better name for it please share it. Thanks
I never really saw it as an idiot scratch anywayzzz, some things just happen in service. Now, if it was a series 70 or 80 out of the box, that might be different.
How about the "Uh-oh!! Booboo".... scratch? Then again nobody will know what your talking about when you say "I'm looking at a used Colt commander, guy wants $900, but its got a nasty Uh-oh!! booboo scratch" Then what happens? I'll tell ya. Your buddy's at the fun shop/range are going to give you a blank stare which will be VERY uncomfortable.....:thdown:
Now, if you say "I'm looking at a used Colt commander, guy wants $900, but its got a nasty Idiot scratch" Your buddy's will suggest you offer $100 bucks less and you'll be respected a little bit more because you look like you know what your talking about when it comes to the 1911 pistol, New or used an old warhorse or a race gun...:thup:
Regardless, My entry for the contest is "Oh-oh!! booboo"....scratch.
Why does it need a name at all? It's just a scratch, no different than any other except we all know how it got there and why. We just don't know when. Could've been made in service or out.
So, seeing as how the term idiot scratch appears to be offensive to some and the object of this thread is to rename it how about calling it the ''$h!t happens'' scratch.
Slide stop reassembly scratch.
I have been calling it a "take down scratch" for a while now. "Re-assembly scratch" is probably more accurate, but in still like the "take down scratch"...
I like it I like it.
Based on the comments we could call it
The Depreciation....Scratch!
How do we pick a winner? We know everybody's going to vote for his own entry....
I got it.!!! a fight to the death cage match,,,NO holds barred....;)
" BUBAA Done it. "
Defender of Liberty stamp.
Chris
How about slide stop scar
The last guy who owned it scratch? Take $100 off the price and I will buy it scratch? Battle damage or patina scratch if I am looking to purchace it.
I suppose I could call it the I wish my freakin license would come so I could get one scratch
Or I wish common sence was a common virtue so I did not need a license to get a scratch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SA M1Dom
I admire your tenacity.
Some of us must deal with totalitarian rule :)Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY
Besides "takedown" scratch, it has often been called the "GI" scratch, as most government issued pistols have it.
Every time I see a take down or GI scratch called an idiot scratch, I am pretty sure who the idiot is!
How about: its been field stripped scratch?
I love my old 1911, 1948, with 5 digit serial #, chambered in 38 Super. Great shooter, but I made my Race Gun from a different format.
Chuck
Since the soldier using it is really the final inspector before it's used for its intended purpose is it safe to call it "the final inspection stamp"( though not a stamp at all) ?
Reread my post and came up with "final inspection mark" or " GI inspection mark"( a take off from Scott's GI scratch)
I don't think referring to it as any kind of an inspection mark will ever fly because when it is normally discussed, the actual Ordnance final inspection mark is usually discussed, too. That would just be too confusing for many trying to learn by asking the questions.
I think it's more of a "field proof mark".
"Takedown scratch" is as simple and to the point as "holster wear". Both are the result of the pistol being used as it was intended.
done scratch one Carcano forever
When I was young, my father who fought in the Belgium Bulge, taught me marksmanship along with the caring and feeding of the 1911A1. One of the tasks I was assigned was to practice field stripping in the dark since, according to "Murphy's Law, if one would have a lockup, it would be in the dark.
To reassemble after stripping, he taught me to hold the slide back while inserting the slide stop pin through the frame, (learning in the process how to make sure the barrel link was captured). Next pressing the "catch" end against the finger relief cutout, sliding it up the frame, holding force against the frame until the catch end hit the slide (thus making more pronounced the scratch), then releasing the slide slowly until the catch slipped into the slide stop notch, and through the frame. Once assembled, I was instructed to rack the slide insuring the process was successful.
When I finally could field strip and reassemble in less than one minute, blindfolded, he credited me with being "proficient" in that phase of my training.
I am somewhat surprised that I have not heard this story from anyone else, even though I grew up thinking all the soldiers sat around in the barracks, before sack time, practicing (and enjoying it as much as I did.
My father is now 88 and was able, with much assistance from my brother, to make the Honor Flight to the WWII monument. Since they arrived during the government shutdown, he was able to add another "war story" to his repertoire.
Thanks for that detail. Invaluable in this ongoing "Thing". Welcome to the neighborhood...Quote:
Originally Posted by kregzubov
I was sorta kidding but it is the mark that one can unintentionally make when inspecting the pistol for the first time after being issued.
For what it's worth I like your "GI scratch" idea and will probably call it that at least for the GI guns.
Also I'm considering the purchase of a Collectable GI ( Colt or Rand) in the next month or two and told to contact you Scott. If it's ok should I email or call you?
I just joined your site so I'm sure once I figure out how to use it we will be in touch.
And as usual when using a small phone for responding to post I didn't see the other page. Great story and we all know soldiers aren't worried about a pistols collectible condition at the time of use. Try to imagine being thrust into a battle via time travel and as you are running and shooting you realize the pistol is a Singer or some other very soon to be rare collectible oh what to do.
Dave:
You can contact me either way. I'd recommend a call first. Then, if you need me to provide an opinion for an item you are considering to purchase, you'll need to provide images and info (or a link) for an Online Opinion, or ship me the pistol for an actual in-hand inspection. But we can talk about all that if/when you call or e-mail. Thanks for signing up at the site. Hopefully, it will prove to be a valuable tool for you in authenticating pistols. Good luck.
Thanks
That's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Greer
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How about 'It is the mark that one can unintentionally make when inspecting the RARE, 100% pistol for the first time after BUYING!' :(
It's a reassembly scratch. Look in the old training manuals and you'll see where they tell you to push the slide stop in, then scoot it up the frame until it slips underneath the plunger and snaps in. Uncle Sam obviously wasn't worried about young recruits keeping his pistols scratch-free as long as they could put them back together.
Well.....I just call it a "damn it".....