The story:
Just landed the last M1 Carbine off of Line #2 at IBM in 1944
and the photos:
https://plus.google.com/photos/11044...CL6vxN7D76KAKA
Seems legit, but how about that finish?
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The story:
Just landed the last M1 Carbine off of Line #2 at IBM in 1944
and the photos:
https://plus.google.com/photos/11044...CL6vxN7D76KAKA
Seems legit, but how about that finish?
I took a look at the links provided and read some of the discussion. Personally, I would be a bit concerned - especially when you compare it to the other presentation Carbine shown in the Rock Island Auction. I'm interested to see what others here have to say. - Bob
Bob please see my PM on the carbine.Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
I think I have seen that Carbine at a show here in Ohio, if it's not that one then the one I saw was darn near the same. Don't remember who it was presented to, but it was aussme !!
Chris
it was on a internet site for sale for a while--looks orig to me, i have one about like it
Sorry, just now got around to replying to your PM. - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by lkgmadmax
The information on the other forum is wrong about the bolt with a X on it. The X on the bolt does not mean it was pulled from production for testing. While this did happen with some makers it was not done at IBM. The X meant that the bolt did not have all of the latest updates on it and that is all. Found on type 3 bolts made around January 1944.
I'm curious about the sling - does it happen to be stamped IBM on the back? Thanks! - Bob
War Baby: 6 or more presentation carbines were given to IBM employees.
Notice on the 2 linked here that 1 has the type II band, the other a Type I ?
I like the type II band one the best.
Very nice grab!
Thx for sharing this.
CH-P777
Thanks you guys for the comments. I have been working with the IBM Archives Department over the past couple of weeks; they graciously proved me with a lot of history on IBM's war efforts, including several lines of munitions that were produced there. I have posted some nice quality pictures they dug out and burned on a CD for me. They also provided information on the employee R.L. Surface who was originally presented the carbine too. There was a conflict in some information regarding the IBM Plant number in Poughkeepsie where the carbines were produced, there were 2 plants there, Plant #4 & Plant #2, my carbine was produced in Plant #2 for which I now have a picture of. Larry Ruth's books make no mention of a Plant #2 in Poughkeepsie, only Plany #4 which has caused me some sleepless nights :) I would love to contact Larry to share some of the rich information IBM has provided me.
Pictures can be seen here courtesy of the IBM Archives Department.
Picasa Web Albums - WWII IBM Poug...
Those pictures are great! It's interesting to study them in detail and pick out variations in the stocks, etc. I notice by the cars pictured, that some were taken during the post-war period. There's quite a cross section of employees too, some noticeably handicapped (maybe even a few blind persons) but doing their small part to aid the war effort. From what I've seen prior to this, I was under the impression that the older building was Plant 4. From what I see here, it looks like it was Plant 2, and the newer one was Plant 4 - that makes more sense. Also, I think I see my 3.8M IBM Carbine on one of those racks! Thanks! - Bob
Bob I unsnapped the strap, I do not think it has ever been undone before; you can see some finish wear on the stock under the snap area. It is stamped with what appears to say IBM 1944; it is not very clear as it looks like the ink stamp bled a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Bob I agree, IBM has always been big on being an EOO. It's makes you proud as an American to see the efforts from individuals of that period working hard and pulling together for a common goal. IBM produced 2,000 carbines per day.