Can anyone tell me for sure if either or both of these models are still in use with Cadets in the UK? I recall a brief discussion a while back but couldn't find it searching
TIA
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Can anyone tell me for sure if either or both of these models are still in use with Cadets in the UK? I recall a brief discussion a while back but couldn't find it searching
TIA
No9's not any more although I wouldn't be suprised if there weren't a couple with Navy Cadet corps in some out of the way places or CCF's at some large schools. No8 rifles, yep....., zillions of them. I overhauled, rebuilt and set-up 8 from my sons old school last August and they salso have another 4 that are set up with single pulkl triggers for non military target shooting too. Most of the large school CCF's have them
Will they ever reach the civilian market do you think, or will they just be scrapped?
Unless they are owned by the Cadets or Schools then I think not. If they are owned by the Cadet force or School then I'd imagine they would be free to sell to FAC holders.
Scrapped unless some big organisation like the NRA or the NSRA get of their big complacent axxxx and start speaking to the disposals people. But on past performance, I wouldn't be holding my breath. I suggested that they could do something similar when the fully legal, single shot straight pull and FAC compliant L98 SA80 rifles were withdrawn. But no..........
Just read BP's thread too. If they are owned by the Cadet Corps, then by definition they are controlled stores coming wholly under the controlling authority of the Crown/MoD. It'd be difficult to be owned by the school unless they purchased them of had them gifted in the past and there'd be a paper trail if that was the case. Sorry to be a bit negative but a No8 was always something I wished to acquire. And to be brutally honest, in my fortunate position, when I wished to own something like that, it usually transpired that way.............. If you know what I mean. But, alas, it never did!
How commonly encountered are the No. 8s "in the wild"? Personally, I've only ever seen one in person and its owner said he'd never seen any others about when I asked him about it.
There has been a few come to light in private hands in Aust, I got real lucky over a year ago and got one of (IIRC) three that were in a private collection for sale. I know of a couple that were brought here from auctions in NZ as well. It would be interesting to know just how many "escaped captivity"....Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Enfield
Ok, I have one.... who else?
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What inspired your original question mate? I thought maybe you had your eye on a No9 as well.
I have two, both i picked up at the NZDF Cadet rifle Auction in 2009
On offer that day was
Lee-Enfield .22 - No 8 (285 rifles),
Lee-Enfield .22 - No 9 (116 rifles),and
Lee-Enfield .303 - DP No 4’s (52 rifles)
Links to a couple of pics of the auction
http://www.rifleman.org.uk/Images/No...Z-Mar-2009.jpg
http://www.rifleman.org.uk/Images/No...Z-Mar-2009.jpg
My No8s
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...1No8main-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...2No8main-1.jpg
I have one; know of another 4 here in Queensland.
I have one also (in qld also maxwell smart). I love mine! My favourite trainer
A lot of the trainers that got sold off in NZ seem to be trickling out of NZ as they come up for sale so if someone REALY wanted one they could jump through the hoops and get one
No such luck, mate... I was told they had not been used for many years in the UK, but I recalled Peter's comments to the contrary not so long ago. Couldn't find the original thread, so asked again. Do you have a No9 you want to sell?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homer
5th, Maxwell and Desky, thank you for your input, gents!
Res, you really in Taiwan? Don't think we have any other members from there?
No haven't got a No9.
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Originally Posted by Son
I'm really living in Taiwan, but I'm from New Zealand and my collection is there.
It would not surprise me that no other members live in Taiwan as the local firearm laws are not conductive to collecting in any way.
I'm glad to hear there's a few of the No. 8s floating around - I figured they'd be a bit like the Ross, where everyone knows they exist and there's a few in museums but almost none seemingly "out there" in private ownership.*
*I know they come up reasonable often in Canada but I've only ever seen three in Australia and when someone showed up at the range with one last time, pretty much everyone stopped what they were doing to come and have a look at it.
We must be luckier in Victoria in the Military Rifle Club I belong to there are 5 in private ownership and 4 club rifles 9 all up so they do exist in Aus.
BY strange coincidence, there's an old 50's or so photograph in my local Oxford paper of RAF Cadets shooting in an indoor range using, yep, you've got it in one....., No7 rifles. Only way you can tell is the small shell cases and the distinct lack of ear defenders by the shooter, instructor and others in the range!
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A number nine is a thing of great beauty.
I know a eight is a better rifle but mine had never evoked the same feeling the nine does. Maybe it because it feels like the correct match for the No4 mk2 I really want to be shooting.
I'm in New Zealand & could probably be convinced to sell mine if the price was right :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Son
I'm building a big block Chevy right now which is sucking up money!
Steve
I got my No8 from Highwood Classic arms and I love it. he has one for sale at the moment and I would also check out Peter Starley at Black Powder I think he has at least one in stock.
It is difficult to find a good un-molested one but these guys are very helpfull although Im not sure if they get involved with exporting.
Price wise anywhere between £700 - £1300 depending greatly on condition. The one I got looked like it had just rolled off the production line and shoots as good as it looks.
I need a PH5D for mine but when they come up on evilbay they go for silly money.
Happy Hunting Campers
I'm glad to hear there's a few down your way! They're a fascinating rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie48
I've had two personally...Quote:
Originally Posted by Colonel Enfield
Remembering with horror my failed herculean efforts to learn the trigger mechanism of the No8 by heart AND go to the front of the class and spout my sheer half learned garbage to those other apprentices who could hardly stifle their shreiks of laughter, I can only guess at the state of some of the 'fixes' to the trigger and how they are operating with the variables that the trigger mechanism catered for. As for how some of the amateurs will be coping with the various: SCREW, locking pull off, SCREW setting pull off, the SCREW stop trigger, the lock nut and the cradle stop pin............... Best not think about it!
I'm the importer who petitioned the BATF Firearms Technology Branch to add the No.8Mk.1 to the Curio and Relics list so they could be imported to the USA back in the late 1990's. I had one large shipment of 20 or so afterwards and some dribs and drabs later. I went through them to get the standard, (if you could call it that!), two stage trigger pull. Like Peter, I spent a bit of time scratching my head while adjusting them. Later on, thanks to Peter, I managed to obtain a couple of the original user handbooks with permission to reprint them. Those little booklets have been helpful to many No.8 owners including myself because they do detail how to adjust or change it over from two stage to single stage.