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Can someone with knowledge of the difference between semi built only and full auto 1919s explain the differences in receivers and parts. Looking more to the .308 versions. Im a total noob at this point on them and interested in building a semi version legal under Canadian law.
Thanks,
Andy
We had a couple of Canadian 7.62mm versions of the good old M1919 and to be really honest, they just didn't have the whooooomph to function reliably as machine guns. I stopped down the .718" (?) muzzle aperture in reducing stages to try to get it to act as a more efficient recoil booster but it didn't really make much difference. It was a case of diminishing returns in effect.
I did speak to a couple of the Enfield design team who did our .300" rear sear L3 guns and they said that the original intention was to convert ours to 7.62mm at the same time but couldn't quite get to grips with it. So left them at .300" where they worked best.
You're right Peter, we turtled along with them and the whole time I couldn't understand why we didn't have the MAG...
Now to the OP's question, I know what we did to the ex autos to make them converted to semi in Canada, but I'm not sure what was done when they made them semi auto from the factory. And that's what you're asking, right? Or because you're in Canada, do you want to know what we did to convert them?
Thanks guys, yes I need to know the difference between the full auto right receiver and a semi auto only right receiver. Also are the internals different semi vs full or is it just the right receiver plates.
Andy
The ones in Canada are ex full autos, is that what you're working with?
Actually I have a chance to buy a kit that contains a semi auto only right receiver, that was registered with the CFC as non restricted, previous to the deletion of the long gun registry. So Im trying to get all the info i can. All the parts are .308 I believe.
If you have the body, that's the worst of it. The problem here could be the internals. Most of them will be the same but I think the lock frame will differ greatly. Barrel and extension should be spot on and cover group. The bolt should be the same but the sear I believe has been altered. Warren on here will have a grasp I should think...and because he's in Canada too it might be worth messaging him and pick his brain. It's sometimes hard to get his attention because he's busy. Just keep trying...
Lots of how to information here - 1919a4.com Forums
Look for an Israeli 1919a4 parts kit. They are 7.62/.308 and some of the semi's I have seen worked well.
Be very careful when working with the recoil spring guide rod. The spring is quite powerful and will launch the rod will a lot of force. There's a thread on that forum about a guy who lost an eye.
Used to be one our safety points, we'd load one up and drive it into a piece of 1/4" plywood...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent
Here the bolt, lock frame assembly, barrel extension, trigger, sear, etc, have to be modified or replaced.Quote:
Also are the internals different semi vs full or is it just the right receiver plates.
I bought a complete semi kit like this a few years ago - Complete Semi-Auto Parts Kit, 1919A4 - Semi Auto - 1919A4 Parts - Parts
Recently found a deal on a spade grip assembly like this - 1919A4 Spade Grip Assembly - Semi Auto - 1919A4 Parts - Parts
Re the driving springs. We were taught to remove it and replace it safely and were also shown the demo of how it would drive itself into a piece of plywood. We were also taught - and had it drilled into us - to NEVER, ever, not ever leave the driving spring in the breech block. As soon as the breech block was taken out of the gun and before it was put down anywhere, the driving spring was always released and laid out alongside. So said, but inside the tank turrets, it was a simple matter for you or the crew to kick the breech block and allow the dr spring and rod to leap free. Not sure about that but safe working practice and all that.......
Just amazing guns. I have seen them in our old Centurions virtually running all day, hosing down massed figure 11 targets supposed to represent advancing Chinese Infantry
Apart from the RHSP, are any of the other parts altered for semi auto?Quote:
Originally Posted by alpaca andy
You will need a semi auto trigger assembly, altered lockframe, barrel extension and bolt. The machining isn't necessarily complicated, but the parts are heat treated.
Hi Peter--Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Do you recall if the Browning you had were the C1 version or the later C5A1 version of the Browning?
--fjruple
I don't know what the differences are between the C1 and the C5. Explain to me and I'll identify what ours were. We had a couple but I think that they fired from the closed breech unlike our M1919/ later L3 versions that fired from an open breech
The Canadian-legal ones that were sold were all standard TNW guns, so if you go to 1919A4.com you can likely find detailed pics of how to build a TNW clone in the USA. It will be the same thing in Canada.
Yes, but that's the US. Our regs are completely different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincent
We did too, except for just basic strip and assy for a stoppage for instance...extractor change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
The difference between the C1, which was basicly a .30 cal except for the major parts change, and the C5, which had been completely internally changed by 8 major mods and 40 minor mods...so it was explained to me. Visually, you can't tell.
Thanks all, great info. So it is a proper right side receiver, with the island. I'm told all the internal parts are also machined for it, and everything is for .308 Until I have it all in my lil hands, I wont ask any more questions, but im sure i will have some once all the parts are here.
Andy