No 32 Mk1 scope repair

Hi guys, recently picked up a No32 MK1 scope at a gun show. I got it for a song but now comes the bad news. It was obviously used here in the extreme north where it was purchased and was viewed as a tool not a rare collectors piece. When I bought it it was sitting in low weaver rings, the person had some clearance issues with the other tool they were mounting it on so they ground the bottom turret screw almost completely off. Not that familiar with these scopes but it is a H.B.M.O and it is not dated. I would love to get it repaired but would not like to spend more than what I could get out of it. Other than that the scope seems to be in pretty good condition....turrets move relatively freely, reticle is all there, optics are pretty clear although when you move the scope around there is some piece rattling around in there. I guess it's time to send it off to the expert. What is a non-dated No32Mk1 refurbished scope worth these days? thanks for the input guys.

I'm presuming it is the anti-rotation peg housing that has been ground/filed away so as to permit the scope to be dropped into commercial 1" diameter rings & mounted on a sporting rifle. This is a shame as it does detract somewhat from the scope's value. However, the housing can be rebuilt, & the 'peg' is just a modified 4BA grub screw. In fact there's nothing to stop the scope being used without the housing being rebuilt, but if the cradle screws on its bracket are not pinched up adequately (but not over) tight, the scope may cant.

The vast majority of HBM Co's are undated. Only the first few were marked with the date of manufacture (1941). Value is very difficult to assess without photographs, but any No32 is worth money. There are several people on this forum who would be capable of fixing it for you.

ATB.

Your telescope is an easy fix. Done loads of 'em. There are a couple of fixers in Canada

May I ask the serial number of the scope please? Looking for a needle in the haystack.

Thanks

David

So this is the "screw" you're referring to; the pin that locates the scope in the bracket?

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../10/5JPG-1.jpg

As for value, stick it on eBay and let it be the next fellow's problem.

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Originally Posted by snipershot1944

May I ask the serial number of the scope please? Looking for a needle in the haystack.
Thanks
David

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Don't despair, I/we matched a rifle and scope between Canada and the UK and that was in pre-internet days.

Yes that pin is non-existent.....it must be threaded in cause what remains on my scope is ground away to half the circumference and you can see internal threads. Also on your picture, the slotted screws that line up with the turret...well when the scope is in the mounted position the bottom slotted screw head is almost completely ground away as well as the body that surrounds the screw.

See thread 3. Still an easy fix. A lot of the '........all original, as it left the factory' combinations were like that before they were fixed.

Hey SniperShot serial # is 10583

Thank you. Wrong needle in the haystack.

Can you post a picture of the markings if visible, you might have a Mk II scope. Per my records 10513 was a factory upgraded Mk II scope, it would be interesting to know if your scope 10583, was still a Mk I.

Thanks

I'm pretty much computer illiterate....I'll have to find someone to do that for me. Don't hold your breath!!! Scope clearly is marked though.."TEL. STQ. No32 Mk1, H.B.M.Co OS. 466 A, REQo No 10583_

There are a lot of HBM's around this batch of serial numbers that were seemingly made as Mk1's and then changed to Mk2's previously to leaving the factory. The wide range of serial numbers shows that the telescopes didn't leave the works in numerical order either. Waste not, want not....., after all, the early Mk2 tubes were the same (whereas the later ones were simplified) - as was everything else except the drum heads and clicker plates

Pardon the necropost, but this is the most recent thread I can find on No. 32 telescope repair.

A friend is considering selling his No. 4 Mk. I (T).

Its scope has a problem -- he says the elevation drum is "frozen."

I know there are repros, and if I wind up buying this rifle, I might just get one as a spare, but I'd much rather have it done properly.

It's been mentioned that there are a couple of folks up in Canada who can work on these things -- but who, exactly?

Also, how difficult is it to get stuff, and above all payment, across the border, in view of Customs on both sides, the current hissy fit between the two nations, etc.?

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It's been mentioned that there are a couple of folks up in Canada

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Perhaps you could contact Warren here on the site... You could PM me an email address and I'll forward it to him...

You could have started a thread instead of resurrecting, it's allowed too...

Following this post closely because my scope needs repair also. The turrets on my No.32 are frozen and I'd like to get them repaired in the future as well. I was surfing this afternoon on this very topic and came across a reference for a place out of Pennsylvania entitled Sniper Country PX who state:

Scope Repair Service – British No. 32 Sniper Scope

$310.00

No.32 Scope Mechanical Repair
Repair Service is now offered for WWII and post war British and Canadian No.32 scopes, series Mk1, M2, M3 as well as L1A1. Sniper Country PX has arranged with a skilled and experience Armorer to bring your sticky or semi-function WWII era No.4 T Sniper Rifle scope, the No.32 sniper scope, back to life. If you’ve been holding off on repairs due to the fact that currently all scopes have to ship to England for repair, you need not wait any longer!

An experienced, retired military Armorer will disassemble, clean, repair and IF POSSIBLE, replace broken parts and return the scope to correct operational function. The basic service includes disassembly and cleaning as well a repair of typical issues found with this aging warrior. Additional services will be offered for scopes requiring repair above and beyond Level 1.
The scope will not need to leave North America. Turn around time can run up to three months as these scopes are hand fitted and sometimes take precise work. Turn around may be less depending on work load and parts availability.

Of course, while I like the idea of the stated price, as well as the fact that it's fairly close to home, I have absolutely NO idea as to their experience nor the quality of their work. My scope and rifle serial #'s match, so I guess you could say I'm not sending it to anyone who doesn't come with creditable references.

So, my question becomes whether or not anyone has any experience with them or knows if they do good work?

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Following this post closely because my scope needs repair also. The turrets on my No.32 are frozen and I'd like to get them repaired in the future as well. I was surfing this afternoon on this very topic and came across a reference for a place out of Pennsylvania entitled Sniper Country PX who state:

Scope Repair Service – British No. 32 Sniper Scope

$310.00

No.32 Scope Mechanical Repair
Repair Service is now offered for WWII and post war British and Canadian No.32 scopes, series Mk1, M2, M3 as well as L1A1. Sniper Country PX has arranged with a skilled and experience Armorer to bring your sticky or semi-function WWII era No.4 T Sniper Rifle scope, the No.32 sniper scope, back to life. If you’ve been holding off on repairs due to the fact that currently all scopes have to ship to England for repair, you need not wait any longer!

An experienced, retired military Armorer will disassemble, clean, repair and IF POSSIBLE, replace broken parts and return the scope to correct operational function. The basic service includes disassembly and cleaning as well a repair of typical issues found with this aging warrior. Additional services will be offered for scopes requiring repair above and beyond Level 1.
The scope will not need to leave North America. Turn around time can run up to three months as these scopes are hand fitted and sometimes take precise work. Turn around may be less depending on work load and parts availability.

Of course, while I like the idea of the stated price, as well as the fact that it's fairly close to home, I have absolutely NO idea as to their experience nor the quality of their work. My scope and rifle serial #'s match, so I guess you could say I'm not sending it to anyone who doesn't come with creditable references.

So, my question becomes whether or not anyone has any experience with them or knows if they do good work?

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You might want to check out this thread that I started on the repair of my #32 scope: https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=66693&page=1

The company you listed got some good reviews, but I ended going a different route.

The moderators do not want me to post Warren"s (the scope repair guy) contact information, but he sent me his card and said he is back in business. If you PM me I will provide his contact information and you can contact him to see if he could repair your scope, or you can contact him through the website in the thread above. My scope required several parts in addition to cleaning, aligning, and colloimating, and the total price was very reasonable even after shipping to Canada and back. This guy still has some of the parts for these scopes to do the repairs with, which is rare to find.

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Yes that pin is non-existent.....it must be threaded in cause what remains on my scope is ground away to half the circumference and you can see internal threads. Also on your picture, the slotted screws that line up with the turret...well when the scope is in the mounted position the bottom slotted screw head is almost completely ground away as well as the body that surrounds the screw.

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Yes, I feared that was what you meant: the detent plunger & spring retaining screw for the windage drum, and it's projecting "housing" have been ground away? That would be quite a bit more of a job to fix.

Is there any problems sending the scope to Warren as exporting and getting it back into the U.S. ? The company in Pennsylvania will handle the shipping to Warren and back again . Maybe Warren can chime in and tell us if this is the best way to go ?

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Originally Posted by tr63

Is there any problems sending the scope to Warren as exporting and getting it back into the U.S. ? The company in Pennsylvania will handle the shipping to Warren and back again . Maybe Warren can chime in and tell us if this is the best way to go ?

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I shipped the scope to Warren myself through the USPS, although Warren did give me some tips on how to fill out the customs form in order to avoid entanglements. I had no problems, but I can say that shipping was very very slow each way.