I saw a cutaway #1 today. Looks well done. Has c broad arrow on butt wrist and rt side as well as on receiver and barrel. Now I don't have pics but did Canada use these? Any idea on value?
Thanks for any advice.
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I saw a cutaway #1 today. Looks well done. Has c broad arrow on butt wrist and rt side as well as on receiver and barrel. Now I don't have pics but did Canada use these? Any idea on value?
Thanks for any advice.
Do you mean did we use the cutaways or the #1 Mk 3s?
Did we have cutaways?
I would imagine that every Army in the world used cutaways as instructional models during the later part of basic or trade training. They were call skeletonised rifles.
I know we had the skeletonized FNs and the #4 skeletons exist. I should think #1s would be in existence too.
The full length No1 skeletonised rifles are quite scarce in Australia. I wonder if many were destroyed when they were no longer required.
That's possible as we had to account for them the same as an active rifle, therefore storage space is a problem at times. Easier to dispose of than store.
Oddly enough, our Skeleton SLR was actually an FN FAL.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Ours were correct as new FN C1 A1s. We fought to get them and then found the way we'd been doing things before worked almost better. We'd remove the spring from the gas piston and take off the body cover and have a second rifle stripped beside us...during the mechanism class...
Heres a few pictures for a looksie at one
Very nice rifle Homer.
Yes, Canada had cutaways. Here is a nice No.1 Mk. III* and Canadian marked as to ownership and conversion to cutaway.
And one for Browningautorifle,
Plus a No.4 and my favourite SMLE cutaway.
Nice cutaways both of you. I was waiting for you Warren, I was sure you'd have a handle on this. Thing is, your cutaway's a C1 isn't it? I thought ours were C1A1s...maybe not though. Have you seen FN C1 A1 cutaways? Anyone for that matter?
Here is a C1A1 cutaway, do not think it is original, but it is pretty, plus a MLM cutaway to add to the mix
Same as yours Warren. Any idea on value? I see some for about $400 - at least at the most expensive store in the country (for #4 cutaways). Just trying to pick this thing up.
Thanks Lance, I thought we had C1A1s. I don't think they were 8L series though. I was sure they were early. By the way, I should think a cutaway for $400 would be a pretty good deal.
Who would convert the rifles skeletonised versions The factory or the army?
Peter gave us a detail about that some time ago, apparently the majority were done as a "Test" for apprentice armorers. I have a hard time with that as I know far to many of our armorers and they're not exactly like that. I'm thinking at least the FNs I spoke of were done an C.A.L.
Navy Arms imported a number of cut-aways from Australia around the same time Jovino brought in their horde. They had to replace the barrels so ATF would not treat them as pistols(too short). I managed to get two of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homer
Full length cutaways?Quote:
Originally Posted by jona
Those would be the ones that had the 12" bbl...no front wood.
Out of interest BAR, were the RCEME Armourers ex-boy apprentices (15 to 18 year olds) or did they just do their training as adults as per most of the other trades. I wouldn't imagine that anyone could afford to run these 3 year non-productive apprenticeship schemes any more. PLUS another 18 week course sometime in the following 2 years to show we were up to speed before we were really 'qualified'. What a 5 year palava! The Indian Army do a scheme according to our IALO at Warminster, where they bring selected, bright, craft-oriented school leavers into the Army as boys to continue their education and trade training for the specialist Corps like REME/Signals-electronics/Engineers
We actually have one here I think...REME Ralph I think his name is. I THINK he was a Canadian armorer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
At any rate, we had an enlistment plan and when I started, it was 17 to 25 and you went to the trade you'd been selected for. There was no boy plan such as the UK had. This is why I believe the cutaways for the CF were made at C.A.L. and not by armorers such as you'd described doing yourself...
I should have thought of RCEME Ralph! Arte et Marte!