Don't see too many of these, M1934

I have no interest in this but you don't see many of these around. It's just the receiver and bolt.

RARE, Remington Model 1934 Honduran Receiver -1917 : Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com


Kurt

Very interesting. I have one of these that I converted into a 30-06 target rifle. The problem that I see is that the bolt is designed for a cock on open cocking piece and not the standard M1917 cocking piece. These are difficult to find. I have about three extras that I bought when they were available for SARCO.

I thought I ran across your post/posts on these here someplace. Seems someplace I read where you could the bolt from cock on close to cock on open with a Speedlock kit of some kind. I think the early Model 30's were cock on close but later went the other way. I was somewhat surprised to see how many actually had one or more of the 3000 made.
Restoring this would be quite a challenge I would think.

Kurt

Many of the "speedlock" conversions caused the firing pin fall to be too short and resulted in erratic ignition. Numrich offered one many years ago. It had a modified cocking piece and a very heavy spring but still gave erratic ignition. I have one somewhere in my parts locker. The best conversion I ever saw and used was by a gunsmith named Viggo Miller. He modified the cocking piece so that it fairly well matched the cocking piece on a Remington 30S. He installed a piece on the collar of the bolt plug that mated with the bolt when screwed in so that the part blended in and gave a cock on opening ramp on the bolt.. I used one for years on a target rifle and fired a couple of thousand rounds with it without a problem. When I broke the cocking piece on my 300 H&H bull gun and could not find a replacement part, I had Mr. Miller modify a cocking piece for me and used it for a couple of years with no problem. . Unfortunately he has been dead for many years and no one ever put his conversion back on the market. Roy Dunlap in his great book, GUNSMITHING , describes how to modify the M1917 bolt and cocking piece, but it takes the skill of a very good gunsmith to accomplish the task. The cost in today's market would probably be be prohibitive. That action could be restored if one could obtain a cocking piece. All other parts are just like the M1917. By restored I mean to a working rifle - not a M1934. Parts for the M1934 were never to the best of m knowledge. You could contact Numrich as they had some M1934 parts many years ago.

Very interesting, thanks for taking the time. I think we are slowly loosing those gunsmiths with the knowledge and skills of the past. Not much different than the mechanics who could tune and tweak a 3 carb MGB all by ear. Another time and place, I might have taken on a project. Still fascinating in any case.

Kurt

It would be an interesting project to tackle but I am afraid that it would be expensive if you had to buy all of the necessary parts. The possibility of finding the correct M1934 parts is probably impossible. The best that one could hope for is to buy M1917 parts to complete the rifle. You would then end up with a hybrid that had little or no collector value and would only be a curiosity. I suppose that you could make a sporter out of it, but for the cost of finishing the project ,one could buy a new, more accurate and better product cheaper like a M70, Savage, or M700. I have most of the parts necessary to complete the job (including a new HS 4 grove M1917 barrel, a complete Eddystone stock with all the hardware, the correct cocking piece, and the majority of the small parts and a Lyman 48 sight required to finish the rifle) but it would still be a hybrid and it would still cost money to have the barrel installed and headspaced. It would still be an expensive project resulting in a hybrid with little or no value.
FWIW

Well put and no other way to say it. If someone simply gave it to you it still wouldn't change the cold hard truth. I have an Arisaka that an in law gave me. Now it's my problem...sigh. With no interest in them, sporterized at some time, cal. changed and a questionable bolt in my opinion it falls into the same category, more trouble than it's worth.

Looks as if some one bought it for the original asking price.

One mans junk is another mans treasure. Or something like that.

Kurt

Funny thing, description says not more than 3000 made, but the serial of his receiver is 4040.

I think the serial numbers were a continuation of where they were in production vs a new series from 1.

Perhaps the serial number sequence started at 1000. Some countries did not want anyone to calculate how many rifles they had. During WWI the Germans with their GEW 98 used a 4 digit system. I do not know where they stated but I believe that they started with 1000. The first 10000 started with 1000a and ended with 9999a, then the next sequence started at 1000b to 9999b, etc.
FWIW

Why couldn't it be assembled with Rem. 30, M1917, P14 parts? You are not going to create an original 1934 out of it but you could get it shooting again. It could make a sporter or a fake 1934 as all the parts swapped military rifles are.