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I was at the gun shop today They had a colt AR dated to 1972 for 1100 tax included the only thing not original was the bolt and follower. I collect military surplus firearms and I am not into commercial ARs. But except for the full auto feature it reminded me very much of the m16 I qualified with in the air Force in 1971. Are the early colts collectable and would close to 1100 with tax be to much to pay for it
$1100, tax included ($1020 +tax) is a fair market price for an SP1. They seem to sell from $900 to $1200. What is not correct about the bolt and carrier?
The counter guy behind the counter told me that the bolt and the follower was wrong for a 72 colt. I took his word for it as I know nothing about ARs
Lots of guys change mag followers for the anti tilt. What bolt did it have? Not like it matters, it should have a semi auto bolt...for the SP1...
The bolt carrier is the black colored part and the bolt the silver colored part. Depending, this would be the bolt carrier group for your 1972 SP1.
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Right, semi auto carrier...chrome bolt.
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The very early Colt SP1 carriers were machined in a different way which was changed by the early 1970 era carriers - all being semi auto
I was hoping he could get a pic of the one he was discussing...or we'll be guessing all day. Yes, should be semi and chrome, no serrations. Even way back, guys liked to upgrade so it's hard to say what's there. He doesn't even describe what he saw.
You are right Jim, a lot of Colt SP1 Sporters had parts changed out starting with the Edgewater buffers from the mid 60's to the no trap buttstocks and bolt/carriers, a lot of upgrades. That is why it is nice to find a SP1 from the 1960's that is still original
I take it that's the early odd looking flanged buffer? They were light and allowed bolt bounce during F/A...? Don't recall ever having one in my hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
Edgewater buffer
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As for the BCG, speculation is all we have at this point. SP1s of the early 1970s have been seen with serrated (forward assist) notches and without, chrome bolts and without. I'd like to see what the OP has.
Right, that's the one. Is this the one responsible for bolt bounce on F/A with the early military guns?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Hollinger
I beieve so but I am not 100% sure Jim.
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Photo shows the original Edgewater buffer in a Colt SP1 rifle (three digit serial number)
The Edgewater buffers were all replaced by 1968 as Jim stated problems with full auto. If
you find one for sale the going price is around $250 to $275
I had a S/A 5 digit that had just about everything upgraded by the time I was finished with it. The older stuff was starting to fail and we'd just started with the new C7 so...rebuild time...
Edgewater buffers were supposed to be replaced by 1968 in the military but may have been used a little longer in the semi auto SP1 rifles