A friend of mine (disabled Marine in a wheel chair) retired from Gunsmithing many years ago and was cleaning house. He found about 12 M1 clips marked Winchester (he thinks). He wanted to know if they had any money value! Thanks!
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A friend of mine (disabled Marine in a wheel chair) retired from Gunsmithing many years ago and was cleaning house. He found about 12 M1 clips marked Winchester (he thinks). He wanted to know if they had any money value! Thanks!
There are two kinds of Winchester en bloc clips:
First is the very early WRA clip with the notches cut all the way through both sides of the clip - these are high value from $30 to $60 each
second is the later WRA clip with indents on both sides (like normal WW2 clips) these are much less in value, perhaps a few dollars or more
I can post a photo if you need to view the difference
I talked to the Marine and he would appreciate a picture. He does not have a computer so I will print it out for him. Thanks!!
I only have photos of the early Winchester clip with the notches cut all the way through both sides of the clip. Also note the early WRA stamp is centered while the later WRA stamp is off-setAttachment 61333Attachment 61332
IMHO, the only way your friend will receive the maximum value (whatever that may be) on any of those WRA clips will be to sell them on eBay. Regardless of published values (for just about anything), you can maximize your "profit" by selling on eBay, as there always seems to be plenty of interested bidders who will compete for your items, especially M1 Garand stuff.
Are any clips marked "OM"?
Neal
Actually there were three variations of the Winchester clips, but the average collector will only find these two WRA marked examples. The very early Winchester clip had the wrong location for the notches and were sent back to be re-cut.
There is also a "blank face" early clip that some claim is also Winchester ?Attachment 61377Attachment 61376
That sounds like it would be a pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
It was my understanding from talking with advanced collectors, that Winchester used the modified clips for test firing their early production rifles. Photo shows an early example of a Winchester rifleAttachment 61428 that was serial numbered on Jan 15, 1941 (ref Canfield's book)
That one would be just past the educational series then?
No, READ THE ARTICLE.
Thank Bob.
apparently it is though...Quote:
Originally Posted by bob seijas
Bruce Canfield uses the Winchester document trove he acquired to ascertain that the Ed Order serials reached about 102000. He even pictures 100931 as an EO rifle. It's a pretty convincing exposition debunking the old idea that the EO went from 100001 to 100500. The EO was for 500 RIFLES not 500 serial numbers.
That's not what his text says...
You're right, I made a mistake -- he said 103000:
"Therefore, there was no definite delineation of serial numbers between the later Educational Order rifles and the early First Contract Rifles. The last of the EO rifles were completed on March 12, 1941 and the final serial number stamped on that date was 103,086. Therefore, not factoring in the lag time between stamping the serial number and completion of the final heat treatment and Parkerizing of a receiver, it can be fairly stated that the approximate serial number range for Educational Order rifles would be 100,001 – 103,000"
I don't know what book you're reading from Bob, mine says 100,501 was the end of the educational and the second order says 100,501 to 165,500. Quoted from Bruce Canfield's all new and up to date...so forth and so on.
And all I did was ask someone ELSE a question...
Your friend for Purity of Essence, Ripper
Attachment 61475
I remember the scene well...always a favorite. And the .30 caliber from his golf bag...
Summer 2014 GCA Journal "The Winchester Educational Order" by Bruce Canfield, pages 21-22
I don't receive that one Bob...Quote:
Originally Posted by bob seijas
Membership lapse or just not received? If latter, contact Sharon at GCA, she will replace it. Use my name.
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Sharon: sbmbrservice2@aol.com
Never been a member.
Tsk tsk tsk. It can't be the 25 bucks, so how come?
Actually it is, you'd be surprised...one more is one more. I just don't get to have everything I want. I have some of the books and have to settle for that.
Now I understand. Thanks for the info, I'll put it in the book at that spot for the next guy that gets my book...with annotations. Yes, apparently the numbers go up considerably past what simple addition would show.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob seijas