Grabbed this one today..a 1916 Danzig Gew 98 'transitional' rifle. Rear sight is marked S/42. No 'G' or 'K' after it. Plenty of Weimar eagles. Kind of surprised no '1920' date on it. Have a look!
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Grabbed this one today..a 1916 Danzig Gew 98 'transitional' rifle. Rear sight is marked S/42. No 'G' or 'K' after it. Plenty of Weimar eagles. Kind of surprised no '1920' date on it. Have a look!
If I am not mistaking Mauser Obendorf didn't start using the S/42 code and WaA63 marking before 1936.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anzac15
A good find! Pre WWII rework, but only minor changes.
How could anyone not like this 98M ? (a rhetorical question, it looks pretty darn good to me). I noticed the "wider" sling band replacing the narrow WWI band. If I remember correctly, Mauser made the sight bases for these update modifications. Don't know if they actually did the work tho.
Any idea as to when this rifle would have been upgraded? I've seen rear sights with S/42 with a 'G' or 'K' before, but not just S/42.
Mauser Obendorf used receiver code S/42K in 1934, S42/G in 1935. The S/42 code was only used in 1936 untill early 1938. In my opinion your rifle was converted to the sS-patrone configuration during that 1936 - 1938 period.
In the book "The K98k Rifle - Propaganda Series - ISBN 90-805583-1-1" there is an official German WW2 propaganda photo made in Northern Russia, August/September 1941 where you can see stacked G98's in front of destroyed buildings. These G98's look just like yours, with the new back sight and a bolt disassembly disc.
This was interesting....looked on the band, and saw these two markings. You might not be able to see it too well, as this camera is crap. The one on the left is 'SuW' something, with '1936' below it. Can't quite make out the right marking, but it looks like a different version of the Weimar eagle. These are on the takedown washer as well.
Kind of an oddball. Usually WW1 98's that were mounted with K98k rear sights were totally reworked to K98K SPECS, shorter barrel, bent bolt etc. These seem to all have the rear sight marked S/42. Never seen one with the original barrel and stock.
Not really, there are plenty more of them out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike webb
Most of what we see today came out of Spain around 1960/61. Really nice find there.
Yeah, I've looked all over it for any signs of SCW, even under the buttplate. Doesn't seem to be any. Only marks on the wood is a stylized 'A' with a crown over it. Same mark is on the buttplate along with '17'.
I don't think it was used in the Spanish Civil War. During WW2 the Germans had complete units armed with G98's like yours.
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1916 Amberg g98m. "K" dated barrel and rear sight - 1934
Nice!
I have 3-5 Gew98's all out of Spain. Most of the nice ones seen today have a Spanish connection. I know there are WWI vet bring-backs about, but this one is not a WWI bring-back. Likely out of Spain 1960/61.
definitely not a bring back. It's import marked. 'CAI GERMANY'.
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Mine is, that is.
I have a Weimar rework GEW 98 but it was left as original and just refinished. I imported several original GEW 98 rifles in the 90's that had come to England via Turkey. They weren't very pretty but they were sound and sold like hot cakes at very reasonable prices.
Mine also has the 1920 property mark on the receiver
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"CAI GERMANY" is not a Spanish re-work. Hard to tell where it came from. Nice find. I have 2-3 of the Turkey Gew's. Nice, but bores show lots of wear.
The stock on the amberg is a 98/22 stock. It has the slots for the handguard clip.
Cool. My transitional is a 1901 Erfurt, marked S/42G. The stock had been duffle-cut (bummer) by the WW II US doctor that brought it back from France, and is EWB Freikorps marked. It still has the narrow sling swivels. It must have some stories.
Correct - it is a 98/22 stock. Great shooter but not very collectible - but for less than the price of a 24/47 - I'm well pleased with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by desdem12