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My Boys rifle has arrived.
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Nice toy, now watch the shoulder :lol::lol:
Mate has one down here funny to watch the young guys beg for a shot and then watch them travel around a foot backwards on the mat with the recoil.
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I don't think it'll be harsh to shoot at all. I shot one years ago and it was reasonable because of the weight. Didn't move me at all... Wish I could be there to hand you a box and get at it with you...
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Doesn't move me much either Jim but some of the scrawny weeny would be snipers are a different matter :lol:
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I fired my first one from the prone position on the exp. range at Shrivenham and it was filmed on high speed video to get the recoil and recuperation in slow motion. The problem was that it showed my face flinching in anticipation of what I'd expected the recoil to be. But it wasn't as bad as I expected and fired it a few more times. Let my young son have a go on one against an old Ferret hard target on the field firing range. He was standing in the fire trench with a small-arms school Sgt/supervisor. He winced a bit first time but it didn't bother him after that.
We had one at the small weapon collection at the Base Ord Depot Ngaruawahia and the blokes running the big ammo dump there found a load of unknown and unrecognised ammo for the Boys. The Boss, Jock Annandale couldn't find a suitable field firing range locally so we couldn't shoot it off. And he wasn't going to let us use it on the new 25yard Armourers test range!
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Originally Posted by
Aussie48
the scrawny weeny would be snipers
I was certain it was that of which you spoke...
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Originally Posted by
Peter Laidler
showed my face flinching in anticipation
And that would be the video that Small Arms in Warminster would be shown...so all the guys would see...
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You're right BAR. To be honest, I did look like a real wuss..... this soppy paratrooper flinching..........!
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Strange those undesirable vids...they hang about for decades.
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Quick question.
Was the black rubber pad supposed to be covered in leather?
Also, anyone have a horizontal brake for sale?
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Originally Posted by
Hal O'Peridol
horizontal brake for sale?
I'll bet if you post a WTB one will drop out of the sky into your hands...
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My Boys has just the rubber with no leather cover, and appears to be original. It's a 1939 BSA
Ed
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I think the rubber butt pads were originally rubber made by SORBO in Birmingham (according to our old records). As they inevitably broke-up with exposure to sunlight - and oil - a webbing lace-on cover was approved.
I seem to remember someone on the forum machining up a horizontal muzzle brake Al.
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It's not big enough.
(said in dry humour flat monotone)
Seriously though - great condition.
Isn't Boys meant to be spelt Boyes?
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Lovely that!
Having shot Barrett M-82s I can tell you that you will have fun with it.
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Nope........ Common mistake among the experts. Capt HC BOYS without an E. Where the mystery lies is the spurious rank that either he or someone unknown to the rest of mankind gave to him. He was a civillian draughtsman/designer at Enfield
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'Tis a bit like John Cantius Garand, a Canadian-born civilian designer at Springfield Armory for much of his life who designed the M1 rifle 30-06. I hear he pronounced it GAIR-end but these days we just about universally pronounce it gar-AND. How on earth did that happen? :madsmile:
Bob
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Got to fire the Boys a couple of days ago, most fun you can have with your clothes on. :)
One thing, perhaps someone here may know. The rifle was shooting about 20 inches right at 100 mtrs. How do you adjust the windage on this great beastie?
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Learn to flinch in the oposite direction:madsmile:
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Originally Posted by
harry mac
Learn to flinch in the oposite direction
:rofl:
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I'm dredging this thread back up because it stopped just short of what I am looking for WRT the Boys in .55 vs .50 BMG. And you guys would be the best chance of some answers....
I have a rifle coming in the original form and was wondering if anyone can tell me the difference in enrgy at the muzzle of the two. I have fired a variety of rifles in 50, and am interested if the slightly larger bore and projectile weight in some of the .55 ammunition types made any real difference to recoil.
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Funny you should mention that Son. Several years ago we were required to fire a Boys on the Field Firing range and I was charged with formulating the range safety template for this beast. No CURRENT info was available. Because of that it looked like the event would be cancelled. Many phone calls later and it was agreed that with a bit of fuzzy logic combined with obfuscation plus a good dollop of creative range order writing, the .55" Boys became a .50" Barratt. I think the safety range was nearly 7miles. And the range day took place. There was plenty of .55" ammo too so I let my son then age 13 or so have a go. Didn't seem to bother him too much.
The Boys cut straight through a Ferret armoured reccy. vehicle like a knife through butter and a satisfying metallic '.....ping.....'.
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I got the chance to fire one in 50 Browning at the Big Sandy in Oct 14. Great fun and the recoil was not as bad as expected. I have to admit to being very nervous and rather reluctant to actually pulling the trigger on the first shot!
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I will be selling a Boys in original .55" in the near future. I also have access to ITRO 300 rounds of ammo.
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I picked my rifle up yesterday.... It came with 14 original rounds in chargers, ten rounds / two chargers in a cloth bandolier
More info and pics next week
The rounds are pulling big bucks with ammo collectors here
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First couple of pics. Its all matching (as far as I know) andthe bore is pretty good. There are a couple of small patches of surface rust which looks like it will clean off. It's going to be quite a job though due to the size of the barreled action... Yet to check it right out WRT stripping. Might have to clean the whole bench off :eek: I have a set of Armourers instructions for it, so a bit of study first up.
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You need the spacers to get the muzzle brake square. Couldn't find these in the parts list but we had some in the kit. I seem to remember that they were punched into recesses GPMG f/e fashion to retain the brake in place. Easy to replicate. Be VERY careful of the threads into the alloy as it is v. soft old fashioned alloy and the steel to alloy corrosion took the thread out. But bushed it and it worked out fine.
Someone on the forum replicated the original round strippable muzzle brake. More effective than yours but by hell, they do kick up the dust and shxx!
Arte et Marte!
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The previous owner said to leave the brake where it is, the thrust to the right into the ground helps preventing the rifle from rolling over that side from the torque the projectile imparts onto it. Wasn't real sure about that, but have seen big problems with GLA tubes on soft alloy mounts caused by torque twist.... Won't be a problem making spacers if I have nothing in the kit that will do.
If the round brake is that much better I might chase one.... Will send you a PM on another Boys topic... Might be able to help me...
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Er............ torque twist..... Surely the twist is already taking place while the bullet is, er......., twisting its way up the barrel. The gas escape via the m/brake is equal so can't........ anyway! Tight hold (.....and it will be a tight hold, believe me.....) of the left and right grip will counteract any rotating moment.
Look for and work out the recoil of the body on the frame.
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I was instantly skeptical too... The mass of the projectile which has to be spun by the rifling vs the mass of the weapon resisting the torque transfer to it... Yeah I didn't consider it a problem but he was adamant! I have seen pics of several rifles with the brake at the same angle... Would that be they way they were machined to provide a gap for the lugged washer? I will have to get the parts diagram out and see if there is a spec for the washer.
