Soldiers are engaged in Battle. Came across this Picture without no Caption . Any Ideas ? I'm guessing Korea.
Frank
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Soldiers are engaged in Battle. Came across this Picture without no Caption . Any Ideas ? I'm guessing Korea.
Frank
I've seen this pic many times Frank. I think it's during the battle for Seoul. I've even see the footage the stills came from...
I would concur. The two showing have bayonet lugs, but all have 15 round magazines. I would think that WW2 pics would be mostly type I or II bands. Even the Arlington Memorial has the wrong barrel band.
Dave
The grip on the one guy's pistol doesn't look quite right for a 1911. What do you guys think? Also, I have no idea what kind of tank that is just outside the door. - Bob
I think it's an M26 Pershing. Look at the mantle just over the carbine handguard...that part is spot on for M26.Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
He's cut the flap on the M1916 holster in half vertically, I think it's still a 1911(A1)...I can see the arched mainspring housing. And the back of the grip safety standing up behind that...Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Could it be a "Pershing" just going on the shape of the turret and barrel! Just pipped me BAR
Looks like a Browning High Power to me.
That's what I was thinking, but had no idea if they were supposed to have had them in Korea. - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by Bill Hollinger
Maybe...the Chinese had them so he could have found it. The Canadians and British and Aussies too...not exactly scarce...But it should fit without a holster mod. Wonder why he did that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Hollinger
March 16, 1945: A U.S. Marine approaches a Japanese soldier on Iwo Jima, Japan during World War II. The Japanese soldier was buried for 1 1/2 days in this shell hole playing dead and ready with a live grenade inches away from his hand. The Marines feared he might be further booby trapped underneath his body after knocking the grenade to the bottom of the shell hole. Promising no resistance, the prisoner is given a cigarette he asked for and was dragged free from the hole.
LT still using a Carbine in Vietnam
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...0_50sJPG-1.jpg
LT navy Jim? Capt army...unless you can point out why he's navy...
I don't see a bayonet lug. :dunno: - Bob
M1 or M2???????????????????
The carbine appears to have a Type 3 band w/ bayonet lug turned away from the camera.
Army or Navy or ?. Beats me. I don't see anything definitive but this must be in the early '60's, before my time. Notice the door gunner is wearing a truly short sleeve uniform jacket and a white helmet, which smells like USAF to me. We will never know what the exact location and circumstance was but the officer's helmet has no cover and his boots are atrocious if they are regulation US issue. No Marine officer would wear his boots like that, period, and I doubt any U.S. Naval Service officer would unless he had been in the bush several months - and this guy obviously has not. Could be CIA or some gungy SOG hot dog in Central/South America or RVN or ?. Who knows?
It looks like he dropped a book. His passport?.....Frank
You USGIs will have to help me here, his boots look like the armored issue with the straps all around them. Out of place for sure but is that possible they are? Some of you guys wore them so...?
I believe I see it now. What's the thing in the hand guard groove - just ahead of his thumb? - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by ChipS
It's his cell phone Frank ! This thing is weird all around. The Huey is so brand new that it has that new car smell, the door gunner has what looks like a M1919 but none of the usual ammunition gear, the belt is just draped over his leg. No GI would wear that type of blouse in the field, his cover is just a aircrew helmet that came with his new huey. The Captain or LT for Jim, has on trousers that are not like I've seen, no leg pockets like jungle fatigues we had. They look like rain pants, his coat man's combat tropical is what we had, He is with some Viet unit and what is that he's carrying? a satchel charge, medical kit? That early it could be anything. I wouldn't be surprised that it was a Naval Surgeon or something like that out getting some combat casey photos. The Viet in the background has what looks like an ice chest lid, "where's the beer?"Quote:
Originally Posted by frankderrico
My vote on the tank is a T34/85
Man, I don't know - paint maybe. I'm still caught up in the dropped "notebook" and the freaky boots.Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Oh yeah- and do you think the guy with the cooler lid got an Article 15 for running off to the operation and forgetting to bring his rifle and gear?
Tank is a Pershing. Just compared pix of the T34/85 and the M26. The M26 has an external mantlet like that shown while the T34/85 has a flush mantlet that is kind of surrounded externally by the turret. Also, the rib you see on the barrel support is dead on for the M26. The T34/85 has no rib on the barrel support. Close up of the pistol looks like the M1911A1, though the picture is grainy and the arched mainspring housing is obscured. The Jarheads look to have the "Brown Side Out" on their helmet covers which would go with the fall time frame of the operation. The man with the Garand looks to be using ammo made prior to '43 since the bandoleers appear to be tan and not OD. All of this is MHO and could be subject to correction. Cheers, Bruce.
P.S. The Captain might have been around Saigon enough to have purchased some non regulation boots?
Tankers boots...
Why would you advertise your rank nice shiny bars on the collars! If going in to a hot LZ why would you have no helmet and only tray to ward of bullets! The door gunner looks pretty relaxed and the ammo belt does not look too long either normally would they not have it in a rather large ammo can or was that a latter mod. As a note on advertising ones rank in the first WW officers took to carrying rifles as when they were seen leading their men waving the venerable Webley around the German snipers shot them first..........does not pay to advertise
I get the sense that this is a staged photo, not one of real combat, for all the reasons cited by Cinders and others. Staged photos are quite common. Recall the staged photos of German soldiers carrying M-1 Carbines that were used for propaganda.Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
At this point in the war (assuming that it's early) the shining Captain's bars are no big deal. It wasn't a great strategy later either as the NVA simply shot the radios and everyone around them. That aerial might as well have been a target, it brought big trouble, plenty of pee, tactical air and artillery.
A interesting photo, the marine is wearing a model 1911 colt pistol, but the holster looks unique..never seen a Model 1911 grip stick out of the holster that much, also the ammo belt slung around his shoulder,..perhaps the member of a machine gun squad, 30 cal browning MGQuote:
Originally Posted by imntxs564