Need help identifying three Daggers / Hirschfaenger

Hello,

I was asked to review some Nazi era daggers and guns the other day that were brought back by a WW2 vet who has since passed. I was stumped by these three. May be you could help me?
The first one is this one - It's quite beautiful, but I have no idea... There are etchings with a crown and an "A" in the blade among others.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../WjZtMX4-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../N5LRMrb-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../ZR5S8H4-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../XH2xbHa-1.jpg

The second one is this one - I believe it's Pre-WW1 Forestry Service, though I am not sure.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../5NLpiHn-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../vlRDnfw-1.jpg

And the third one:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../SAaJK8s-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../8YhgqOq-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../GeQAD4s-1.jpg

Any pointers, may be even values would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Telvis78

I'd say 2 u. 3 are Forestry or Jäger of pre 3. reich period.
The 1. appears to be some sort of Kriegsmarine dagger, But you failed to show the entire handle! Also clear photos of both sides of the blade would be nice. Is there any makers mark on the blade?
Sarge

Here's a site you can go through to identify your own dagger. Don't know why guys can't find these sites... http://www.wwiidaggers.com/NVL12.htm

Maybe they're total computer illiterates like me BAR. A 70's degree in Mechanical Engineering didn't prepare me for the intricacies of compu'ers. So I stick to what I know a little about..... sweeping the leaves up

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Maybe they're total computer illiterates like me

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Maybe...that's where I was a few years ago but had to get past it.

Hello BAR and everybody else,

Thanks for the replies. I am not computer illiterate. I looked through a few German websites first, found the blankwaffenforum, which is a very good site, but now after some bad mishaps following the sudden death of their admin is now basically defunct. I finally found you guys here.
I was looking for something pre-WW2 since there were no Swastika present on these Hirschfanger but couldn't find a picture page, mostly since I wasn't sure what to search for. "Hirschfänger identify" or similar things mostly took me to strange pages that didn't help too much.

Anyways, thanks for the pointers. I will try to follow this up with better pictures so that may be we can figure out what the 2nd and 3rd one really are.

Thanks,

Telvis

I search the heck out of pretty much anything before asking here because I don't want to look like a complete dumbass but you guys are the best. Sometimes I just ask here to save myself hours of looking.

I'm a bit like you Aragorn but I look and ask here simply to save hours of looking elsewhere!!!!!

The dagger is a navy dirk but what's strange is the handle. It should have about 6 or so wraps of the wire twist. It has three complete wraps and a very white handle. Other than that it is navy... It could be a personal order for an individual though.

The naval dirk is a Yugoslavian Naval Officer Dirk M1924. The wire wrap on the grip is correct. It's about half the number of wraps found on similar dirks, but that's the way it is. The crown-A is the royal cypher of King Alexander I of Yugoslavia, who reigned 1929-34. The scabbard carries the Yugoslavian Greater Coat of Arms used 1918-41.

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Originally Posted by marysdad

Yugoslavian Naval Officer Dirk M1924. The wire wrap on the grip is correct.

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There we go...at last.

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The naval dirk is a Yugoslavian Naval Officer Dirk M1924.

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Wow!!! You rock! Thanks so much!

Mein Gott eine definitive antworp auf die Geschichte der derk gut gemacht:thup:

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Originally Posted by Gil Boyd

Mein Gott eine definitive antworp auf die Geschichte der derk gut gemacht

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Yup...

Hello,

I have uploaded some more pictures for the last dagger that hasn't been really identified yet, and was hoping to get some more details. The album is on imgur at this link: Forestry Dagger - Album on Imgur

Thanks,

Telvis78

If its of any help, and not wishing to teach anyone to suck eggs, it certainly isn't an infantry assigned dagger in bayonet form. With the exclusion of any fitments to attach to a rifle muzzle and looking at the carved handle it would sit best with a Forestry post somewhere in a German speaking country, and used probably for carving up large animals.

As someone who is half German I have seen several of my elderly relatives with these so they are fairly common in and around the Black Forest. I am sure one of our German posters will be more definitive.

I was in the museum in downtown Munich some years back and there were cabinets full of blades just like that. Nothing special, just hunting knives to dispatch animals in close quarter. There was a time when beaters would drive animals into pens and a REAL hunter would go in to dispatch it by hand. These were the blades used for that. This one even has the secondary sheath for the smaller knife, like Puma used to make. I don't think it's military at all.

Thanks BAR, I was thinking it probably was nothing special. Any idea what something like that would sell for?

That would depend on how badly an individual wanted it. If you want to know, put it on Ebay and find out...Really hard to say.