I stumbled across this at a local fun show. Standard weight traning rifle with H&R markings.
Watch out for the retro AR bug. It bights hard.
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I stumbled across this at a local fun show. Standard weight traning rifle with H&R markings.
Watch out for the retro AR bug. It bights hard.
I remember those. Heavier than the real thing or so I thought at the time. Especially when doing the survival swim test!!
Now you have me curious. I will weigh and see how it compares.
We still ahve those but of course the new pattern. They're accountable as "B" class because they used a real rifle barrel in them. They all shared the same serial number and markings.
I really want a rubber duck some day. A guy on the AR15.com retro forum got one with an early 601 1/14 twist with a cast front sight base. He left the rubber ducky intact, as I believer they just use barrel stubs.
I always thought the Canadians were smart using the rubber C1 and C7 rifles in "pay jump" airborne ops. When I was a young Armorer in the 325 PIR, it used to aggravate the crap out of me that we used our issue weapons to make "pay jumps" where all we did was rig, fly, exit the bird, land and get on the cattle truck back to Fort Livingroom. It never failed to beat the crap out of them or worse, (bent barrels on the A1 were common), break the old M203 Grenade launchers loose, etc, etc. We had a heck of a time just keeping the weapons up to snuff as most of ours were pretty tired 10 years after the Vietnam conflict. Training ops where we went to the field for days were a different scenario but you get my drift.
We used the old EX rifles in the AB regt for years...still showing copper wash, no breech blocks and all welded up... They also had Brens in the chests for some time in that same stores. I think the rubber C7s are the norm now though. Yes, saves on breakage for sure. For a time in the Battle School, we issued #4 rifles and spike for bayonet training...that was neat.
Bernie...Here you go... http://www.gunbroker.com/item/562811978Quote:
Originally Posted by imarangemaster
I have two ducks... both of mine a carbines (collapsible stock) with M16 barrels. I will have to look and see what is on the barrels.
I have never seen a carbine photos?
I saw the diver course running(Very slowly) past my place a few months ago and they had redguns that had been painted black. They had M4s and SMGs...
Oh the times of yelling bang bang bang in the woods on FTX
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Rubber ducks from left to right:
Colt carbine AR15 XM177E2 cast at Fort Knox
bayonet for M16
Colt rifle AR15 XM16E1 cast at Fort Benning Ga.
AK47 North Korean markings
bayonet for M16 mkd. TAD-66
Springfield M1 rifle
Winchester M14
M14 made of cast aluminum and steel barrel for Marine Corps "wet" training
Missing and lost somewhere in gun room is a M1911 .45 auto "duck."
I have seen M60s but I have never seen an M1 carbine or
Thompson.
Very nice group. The only M1 carbines I've seen are the resin guns for movies. M60s too...Quote:
Originally Posted by breakeyp
Saw an A2 training rifle for $140 last weekend at the Wanamaker show.
I encountered another variation today. An Elasco tool Republic of the Philippines marked one with lighter shading on the "metal" parts.
I will try to get a photo next time I an that way.
Talking of which........ When they were making Saving Pte Ryan here several years ago, the company had hundreds of WW2 weapons made using compressed shredded rubber (tyres). They were hand painted for realism by kids at a couple of local schools for holiday pocket money. The idea was that after the filming, they could sell them all of at shows etc etc for a vast profit. Alas, the UK authorities got wind of this and put a total ban on that idea - thousands of realistic Thompson guns and Garands etc etc in the hands of the lawless British. So they all sat there. slowly deteriorating..........
There's a website for the purchase of film relics, it's a booming business and very, very profitable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
http://propstore.com/product/saving-...-garand-rifle/
Government wisdom. Sigh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
I have a couple rubber duckies the black 'rubber' version
and a couple that have a greenish fiberglass type lower, and a glassed up A1 upper (charging handle glassed in position, barrel is filled too I think)
these have a standard trigger in place, and magazine catch, take down pins, etc,
seems fragile to use like a ducky
Let's have a look then?Quote:
Originally Posted by lyman1903