No4 Mk1 T sniper rear leaf sight

does anyone know where to find or a source for a No. 4 mk1 leaf sight but with the battle sights grounded off?

thanks

You could buy a No.4 sight off fleabay for $40-70 and grind the battle sight off yourself taking care when you finish its flat is nice and smoothly finished with wet and dry then just cold blue, if your after a proper one off a real T then the forum members who may have one MAY part with it at a cost otherwise allot of trolling gun boards and fleabay to get your real T rear sight. By the way if it is a bona-fide one be prepared to pay a tidy sum for it.

Out of interest was there any particular manufacturer used for a T converted sight, I think I've seen singer in the past on a 45 BSA, or are multiple manufacturers used?

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Originally Posted by CINDERS

You could buy a No.4 sight off fleabay for $40-70 and grind the battle sight off yourself taking care when you finish its flat is nice and smoothly finished with wet and dry then just cold blue, if your after a proper one off a real T then the forum members who may have one MAY part with it at a cost otherwise allot of trolling gun boards and fleabay to get your real T rear sight. By the way if it is a bona-fide one be prepared to pay a tidy sum for it.

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yea that's kinda what i'm planning to do if there's no where to get one. another question: were there anything difference from the sniper sights and the regular sights like special makers, markings and etc?

I'm open to correction from others on this one, but all 4T rifles of BSA Shirley origin that I have seen that have not been FTR'ed have had Singer manufactured sights. Earlier rifles bear sights marked with Singer's early marking form of SM followed by the last two digits of the date, eg. SM41, & later rifles such as 44 & 45's bear sights with the later allotted code for Singer, of N67 (Northern Area factory number 67). Having said that there are some exceptions in that some rifles were sent to Holland & Holland with battle sights fitted, but which were otherwise up to conversion standards, & these had sights fitted from a stockpile of spares held by H&H. It is known that many rifles were fitted with sights of Savage manufacture. I have seen or owned several, & all were of BSA 1943 manufacture, but other dates may well exist.

Of course, if a rifle has been through ordnance repair or refurbishment it could have a sight of any provenance on it. As Peter has said on many occasions armourers simply fitted what functioned correctly & were not too bothered about the factory of origin.

Hope this helps.

Thanks roger, pretty much what I'd assumed, good to have it confirmed..

I've got a couple or three hanging about in the gunroom, drop me a PM if you're still after a genuine example

On the other hand, as an Armourer working in a standard Field or Base - or even at his unit workshop - he'd just get the next leaf out of a small box of assorted spares off the shelf and use that. They weren't changed very often. The biggest fault was a slack cursor slide or screw. So you'd rectify that fault first by tightening the round nut in the slide or replacing the screw retaining pin.

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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

On the other hand, as an Armourer working in a standard Field or Base - or even at his unit workshop - he'd just get the next leaf out of a small box of assorted spares off the shelf and use that. They weren't changed very often. The biggest fault was a slack cursor slide or screw. So you'd rectify that fault first by tightening the round nut in the slide or replacing the screw retaining pin.

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Nice. I wish it was that easy for me. the No4 T i got had the whole rear sight missing. not even the pins or spring remains. is there a specific look to the sight in the grounded area like should it be completely flat or some meat remaining?

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I've got a couple or three hanging about in the gunroom, drop me a PM if you're still after a genuine example

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just PMed you.

An armourer would have made it flat due to pride in workmanship and not a half baked effort, the posts and springs are easily obtained the cross pins are there bit more difficult and as Peter has explained you can use a suitable sized nail cut down to put in the rear site axis pin hole.
I brought a spring and plunger for $10.00/AU from a seller on fleabay so they are not that expensive see if simon has a complete rear sight set up.....!

A MK. I back sight for a No. 4 MK. I rifle is on eBay Calibrated to 1,300 yards and incorrectly described as being for a Jungle Carbine (which was not calibrated for the longer distances). Marked /|\ and B (early war Birmingham I believe). In Las Vegas. Has battle sight still in place. Claimed to be NOS condition.

Original LEE Enfield Jungle Carbine Rear Sight Free Shipping | eBay

thanks for the help guys

I make them from Mk.1 rear sights with crushed battle apertures. I have a couple of spares here but they both have slides marked "M" for the L42A1.

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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

On the other hand, as an Armourer working in a standard Field or Base - or even at his unit workshop - he'd just get the next leaf out of a small box of assorted spares off the shelf and use that. They weren't changed very often. The biggest fault was a slack cursor slide or screw. So you'd rectify that fault first by tightening the round nut in the slide or replacing the screw retaining pin.

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Was there an approved method of tightening the cursor slide on the sight frame? I've seen the odd one punched in a bit on the sides.