Years of M1 Garand wisdom & knowledge lost

I immediately started missing the Culver's Jouster Forums.

They nurtured a good deal of interchange between us, coupled with, mostly, good humor.


But here's the thing: Though I trained on the M1, I really learned most about it through the CSP Forum. It was not only a place to have my questions answered, usually within a day, but it also was a rich library of M1 information and photographs that I could search for many years back. And rich in contributions and advice from the best sources in the world, you guys.


The loss is more than just the loss of the day-to-day forum; it's the loss of a vast repository of knowledge contributed over the years by a great and dedicated bunch of individuals.

Thanks,
Louis of PA

Very well put.

Most if not all should be available on the wayback machine

Internet archive

Goggle it and enter csp.com

Some of the links also work

Louis, we will all miss the old forum and more as time goes along. It was a special place and the sheer numbers of visitors kept it vital and fresh.

Personally, I never paid much attention to squabbles, as I come from the chat room world, where name-calling is long, loud and often vulgar in a manner never seen on CSP. I never took it seriously in that world and, frankly, disregarded it on CSP as childish squabbling over things beyond our control. It bothered some, but you learned to grow a thicker skin or retreat to those forums who count their numbers on two hands and have fingers left over. I prefer the open fight and always enjoyed large numbers of people arguing and adding to conversations. It kept things lively and people, like I say, adjusted or moved on.

We will never get anywhere the sheer volume of users because this format doesn't support that many and will never tolerate the literally hundreds and hundreds of people that used to visit the old site simultaneously. It was slowed not by faults or poor administration, but by sheer volume. I have gone out to the kitchen and seen a post get twenty-five views in less than 30 minutes. This site and format can't do that. So, YES, Louis we have lost the information that numbers could provide and we will wait longer to get less information on our favorite subject.

Well Gents, we're sure as Hell not in Kansas anymore, but change is indeed inevitable. I had no idea this was all going on 'till I tried to log onto the Shopper one eve. WOW. Well, there's no point looking back. Lets move forward and hope that the Old Guard will join up once again.
Meantime.... I'll do my best to get used to it as soon as I can. I hope you'll do the same. H.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Rochester

Most if not all should be available on the wayback machine

Internet archive

Goggle it and enter csp.com

Some of the links also work

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Mark - Thanks for your suggestion to go onto the wayback machine. I tried it but only found meaningless Jouster fragments. However, I find that I've regrown some hair on my head, so I really appreciate your help - Louis of PA

You'll find some of it archived here:
http://www.garandcentral.com/owbase/...sp?p=FrontPage

While I certainly appreciate your sentiment Louis.....I wonder how much more "lost" things are now than they were two weeks ago? The Culver's computers haven't "died", and archive services like Wayback are still around.

No, the major "asset" CSP has are people! Some leave, others arrive, some God takes from us too soon.....Socrates described the perfect school as a log, with a teacher on one end and a student on the other. As long as the log exists, it doesn't matter if it's oak or maple!

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Originally Posted by Louis of PA

Mark - Thanks for your suggestion to go onto the wayback machine. I tried it but only found meaningless Jouster fragments. However, I find that I've regrown some hair on my head, so I really appreciate your help - Louis of PA

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I find that I've regrown some hair on my head, so I really appreciate your help - Louis of PA

Mark if your holding out on the snake oil.............I am not happy
You know I need help it that dept:wave:

[B]Louis

I recovered this from the internet archive with just a few minutes effort - not everything is there but all is not lost[

Mark /B]

Re: difference between SA and WRA gas cyl?
Posted By: Joe the Butcher
Date: Friday, 18 February 2000, at 6:43 a.m.

Might I add; the barrel ring is much thicker than SA. The rounded top barrel ring profile will have what appears to be hand-grinding tool marks running sideways at the very top. There is a 1/16 step just under the sight platform on both sides of the WRA cylinder. Original finish on WRA is bluing over iron plating. WRAs also have heavy machine marks on base platform and at utmost rear of the cylinder. The stack swivel screw is staked with a rounded tool that leaves a domed appearance. No other manufacturer staked them this way.

Some knock offs and foreign cylinders also have this round rear ring profile but they are wide base configuration and do not exhibit the grinding or thick features discribed above.

If you have a narrow base cylinder in front of you, chances are that it's a SA. WRAs are scarce.

Hope this helps. JTB

I'm going to miss it. I've read the board almost every day for the last 6 years. I don't know how long it will take until I am comfortable with this format. I'm just glad to see many of our regular poster over here.

GBA

I have enjoyed the forum for many years, when I came across valuable info, I printed it and now have a nice reference book. Thanks, Major and Gloria!!

Louis,
Well said. I just now logged on after discovering CSP wasn't there! I have, over my several years as a member, copied postings that I figured might either serve me or someone in the future, into a document I keep on my machine (backed up of course). It's about 150 pages long and includes all the various photos members posted to aid all of us with various parts, etc. I am so glad I decided to do that and regret not including more of the information. Hindsight is such a marvelous thing!