New stuff for the collection

Never stops the collecting bug got these the other day;
20mm projectile SMC 1943 appears to have a steel core as per pic of the projies base - needed it for the case it sits on.
A cannon projectile I am thinking it is something along the lines of a 6pdr it appears to be a WWI G-1 profile it is scaled with a 2pdr shell
And a 2" mortar illum round 1944 dated.

The thing I like about these acquisitions is they retain their copper original driving bands which was in short supply after the war and often cut from the projectile to be melted.
Not much info on the bigger projectile all I found on the base was a 23 and on the side of the shell an underlined P the base has a hollw section @30mm dia maybe for a base fuse! Still they have plenty of company in my room....now then the search continues!!!

Heres the projie in question next to a 37mm case any guesses to it's type perhaps light field Arty it feels almost solid shot will caliper it tomorrow for measurement Attachment 74060

Post Postscript ~ Ages ago I inquired about my Mills grenades (with pics) and if anyone would hazard why the white one was different than the M-36 I have well I got bored totally last night and checked Skennertons book on them looks like it is a No 23M judging by the shape etc you can just see it in the last pic with the 37mm (The 36 is on the shelf above). Thanks to BAR who replied :cheers:

My 37mm projectile has a half inch hole in the bottom about 3/4 inch deep. My copper band has the following data: LOT 1-0319-2 1942 CM 37MM M74, I thought it might have been for
a P-39 or early P38 cannon but a check showed the aircraft cannon projectiles used a different numbered/model number.

The hollow spot at the bottom was usually for the tracer element. Yes, the big one looks like a 6 pdr, mine is a practice and square front. The two is very nice, I've needed a projectile for my casing for years...solid shot of course is for use against hard targets.

If I find one BAR I will get it for ya postage to the USA may be a killer though even for a 2pdr projie.

In Australia, does "trench art" in the form of WW1 shell cases that have had decretive designs and patterns hand punched and engraved onto their side crop up very often in antique and flea markets etc? In the U.k it is relatively common although I would question how much of it was actually carried out in trench it's self.

unfortunately I don't get to visit markets and antiques stores much any more, but you do see quite a lot of shell cased turned into vases by cutting the mouth and curling the 'leaves' out on ebay.
the art I used to see quite often were aeroplane ashtrays.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...lanemapa-1.jpg

the only trench art in my family was a Oerliken case used as the handle on a fire poker, but it was made by grandfather using a case he picked up from a ship he was salvaging scrap metal off circa '44 after he was discharged for injuries.

Also picked this pair up as well the 303 round I use as a scale so you can get an idea of the items size also took a H/S pic if any one can identify them. TIA

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Originally Posted by CINDERS

may be a killer though even for a 2pdr projie.

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Yes but it's probably the only place to get one. I'd have to stand it.

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Originally Posted by Flying10uk

"trench art"

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Trench art for the most part was done by convalescing troops in the rear, to give them work for their hands and minds. The stuff made at the front looks completely different. Most didn't make it back. It's back in the rear you have time on your hands, not at the front.

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Originally Posted by CINDERS

if any one can identify them. TIA

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Are they not 37mm cases?

Measured the cases I.D neck is 36.31mm so 37mm they are 200mm long (37mm x 200mm designation.) now the question is are they tank rounds for the Lee Grant or aircraft I think the P-39 had a 20mm or 30mm firing through the propeller boss can anyone decipher the head stamps. TIA as usual

So I cleaned up all the gunge gave it a coat of semi flat and here she is I did not polish the band as that would detract from the aged patina the shell miked at 56.63mm so 57mm (6pdr) but I still feel it is around WWI era given the G-1 profile still who cares its here with me and I can admire it for lots of years to come hopefully.

Cinders, I wonder if your shell cases in post 7 are for a Tank main gun but of WW1 vintage; the 2 indicating 2 pounder. Can some-one tell us, please, if the "Male" Tanks (had proper guns not just machine guns as in the case of Female Tanks) used by Britain and Commonwealth in WW1 were 2 pounder?

I think you're right, the stamp there is a date stamp of 918 (1918)... Here's a link to the early tanks. They appear to be 6 pdr. British heavy tanks of World War I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thought it would be nice to show some of the larger pieces in my collection I have had these for a while L-R Leopard prac HEAT round steel case, 5" Naval cannon shell from our decommissioned Swan class destroyers and 107mm (?) Recoiless shell I have 2 of these one is a practice case.

I placed a 303 round on top of the HEAT round for scale (pic 1) then at the base of the practice HEAT projie for scale.
Cheers

Is anyone able tell us more about the blue practice shell of Cinder's which he describes as a HEAT round from a Leopard, please? It appears to be an amour piercing round and is it just the standard A.P. round for the Leopard M.B.T.?

Blue is standard practice. Nothing more. If it were heat it would be black I think with yellow markings. (See pic)...and the 107 is actually a 106, which when live measures out at 105...we had them for years.

Think this is an earlier version of the real one denoted by the brass shell case (which I have been chasing one for years) BAR put me onto some but the shipping would have been lunar in price. And another 2 I know of the owner will not part with till he is pushing up daisies.........
Jim what calibre were the ones on the ONTOS that served in Vietnam. TIA

Sorry I shortened practice to prac which may have given the wrong impression of the projectiles intent I still reckon even a practice round would do some damage to a target as they are fairly weighty.

The practice rounds are blue. Heat is black. You're right about AP though, as in finstab, they're blue. Brass cases are just the luck of the draw, you could draw 105mm ammo for the howitzers and have a mixture of cases up to a few years back. The tin wrap cases were a cost saving measure, the navy ammo was the same.

The ONTOS was a multiple mount 106mm recoiless rifle veh. There were six I think, standard guns. That would have been super, wish we'd had those. Specially over in Afghanistan... M50 Ontos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia