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I only have one carbine [Quality Hardware] a great little gun.
I would like to have an org. M1A1 but haven't seen one at a gun show in a while, does anyone know the going price if you could find one ?
anyone want to sell one ? I don't feel good about gunbroker etc.
Bill H, I know you have hundred's of them, know where I could find one ? Thanks.
Here's a pic. of my ole Quality Hardware and a few accy's. thanks for looking.
Beautiful carbine! I've always wanted one but haven't pulled the trigger yet. We have a guy up here who sets up at the RK gun show with 3 tables of nothing but carbines. I just stare lol
John,Quote:
Originally Posted by MinerJohn
You work hard making a living, you deserve a hobby, and theirs no better hobby then to start a collection of some part of our History, and to start with a carbine from WW-2 is a great way to do it. you won't regret it. and you won't miss the money, it's not like your buying a new chevy. Vett. we only go around once. go buy a part of History, get that carbine. "PULL THE TRIGGER"
I don't have hundreds anymore ;)
I don't blame you one iota for not trusting GB. My only advise is find one, post it here and let us help you determine whether it is a solid carbine or not.
I will do that Bill,
That's part of the fun of this hobby is posting pic's of your find's and getting comment's from those who know, like you. I have been doing my homework [ref. U.S M1 Carbines, Wartime Production] I feel I'm up to speed on the carbine, I just need to brush up on the folding stock. I know you are a GURU on M 1 carbines, I have seen your large collection [pic,s] I am going to a military gun show next sat. and if I see one, I plan on getting it if its a true WW 2 M1A1.
I have been putting it off to long.
I like that: We're surrounded, that simplifies things! Now just shoot in any dir. your bound to kill one.
Thank you very much for your kind words but there are many many more who are far more versed in these little gems than I. I will, however, do my best to assist in any way I can.
The first thing I check, and easiest to see is the buttplate markings. There is a correct number, circled star, and then a sand cast number for it's position during production. I believe 1 through 12.
Check the cheek pad and rivets for replacement. Grip and stock for markings.
This is a good site for information on one. The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbines, Model M1A1
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ntitled2-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...A1Plate3-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...07/M1A17-1.jpg
Not correct:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...uttplate-1.jpg
If the stock has the "Fun switch" cut out it's not original.
Sometimes you find originals modified for the M2 selector switch.
That's right, they did the mod when the order came out. They didn't care about collectability or originality.
What great information from you all, esp. to Jimf4m1s for the site and pic's, I see I have a lot more reading to do, you guys sure make it easy to tell the diff. from a real one or a fake, and I know their are many fake ones out there.
I'll post some pic's of more accy's that go with my carbine today, just showing off, hope you don't mind ;).
That "The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbines, Model M1A1" needs to be updated as it states that M1A1 carbines were made in the 1st block of 999,950 numbers.
It’s now known and confirmed that M1A1 carbines were also assembled into the 2nd block of serial numbers and not just in the 1st, 999,950 block of numbers as the site states.
Serial number ranges of M1A1 carbines are going to vary from in sn 104700 to 999,999, and also into the 2nd block of 271,2520 to 299,5100. Those later serial number carbines would have 10-43 bbl serial numbers. Ray
rayg,
Thank you for that great info. I would love to find one in the right sn. range, but my thinking is that if I find one in a org. folding stock, the receiver name would not be that big of a prob. for me as many of them that went through over haul or was repaired by an armorer's in the field could have many mixed parts on the gun itself, I feel sure that many M1A1's ended up in battle with the wrong gun part's, but your right, I would rather have one that is 100% correct, if their is such a gun out there.
Am I all wrong ? Your thought's ?
But...when they were repaired, carbine parts were installed and they WERE the correct parts. Or did you mean the ORIGINAL parts? After a bit of time, none of the serving weapons in an Infantry Bn have original parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by lboos
Thanks browningautorifle,Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
I sure screwed that one up, I did not mean with the wrong parts, I meant with other original parts, you are right, thanks for correcting me.
I don't know if you followed this thread, but it shows one that would be close enough for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by lboos
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=54950
:thup: - Bob
You should be able to tell a modified stock compared to a factory cut out.
I always liked the M1A1 carbines and probably had about a dozen of them through the years. I ended up keeping only one which shows signs of battle usage having three notches cut in the grip and the sling metal painted to prevent any reflection. Here it is, It's the one which the serial number falls out side the 950,000 block as mentioned above with the 10-43 bbl date. I always wondered about the story on how it got those notches, Ray
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There is a gentleman in Middle Tenn. that had one for sale with I Believe DCM papers but I' just don't remember offhand and if I remember right he was in the $2300-2500 range