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I have been contacted by someone wanting to buy my 1922 ShtLE, serial no 4532.
It is an all matching rifle, with original rear sight. The only non-original item is the stacking swivel, that I added. Bore is pitted.
Any thoughts as to what it's market value might be?
In the UK?
In Canada?
In Australia?
There is just very little sales history for ShtLE V rifles.
I want to do the right thing, both by myself and for the potential purchaser.
Cheers
Paul
Paul my offer would be between $1500 and $2000 tops Australian dollars with the worn bore, there is one for sale in he UK for what i consider a ridiculous £2700 ! Dunno about America. Aussie Antique Arms Auctions moved one a few auctions ago but a can remember the price, you should find it if you spend some time trolling their previous sales.
Cheers
There is one on gunbroker (US) right now, starting at $1400, buy it now price $2700.
The last one I saw went for $1700.00 +5% tax +10% buyers premium at auction here in Canada.
I had five at one time, all in excellent condition. I sold off three about 4-5 years back and the most I could get was $800. Two years back I tried to sell the remaining two for $1,000 and could get no takers.
Maybe it's time to pull them out and try again. Also have another one that has a Mk III stock and no mid band. Asked $400 and no takers. Maybe a better market now.
Location, location, location...I keep saying. This area would glean huge money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie
UK normal price is around £1500, the one mentioned for £2700 has been on the market for sometime.
And at 2700 it will be for a long time!!
Yep, Mikes on the money for Australian values. 1500 to 2200 for good ones. I've sold them at the latter.
Mine was Aus$1800 about 10 years ago.
I should add mine was imported by me from Australia to NZQuote:
Originally Posted by 5thBatt
Sold mine a few months ago for $1600 Canadian. All matching numbers, wood almost pristine, excellent barrel. Was asking $2000 and had no bites til I moved on the price.
I paid $2000 for mine and it has a very tight mint bore. Possibly a bit much, but i did not have one at the time.
Bought mine a year ago in Arizona USA for $750 usd and imported it to Canada. Total cost with importation was $1450 cad
It just occurred to me that you guys talking about your ShtLE Mk V...should be showing us at the same time. We'd love to see more of these...
1924 all matching. I paid $800 USD, almost 10 years ago.
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Talking of Mk5's....... Does anyone have one of the 18 shilling conversions from a Mk3? The rear sight mounting is brazed on to the body and then machined in situ and very difficult to tell BUT you can just see the feint outline of the braze. They usually have the original barrel with the rearsight holes visible.
My 1924, purchased back in 1992
That's better, very nice...!
I also have a 1924 ShtLE MkV bought in 1992. I paid $740 but it still wasn't cheap back then.I'm happy I got it though.Attachment 74832Attachment 74833Attachment 74834
Hi, here a few pics of mine.
cheers
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Nice rifles...all of them. Thanks guys...for the pics.
My Mk V. Appears to have original barrel, matching bolt, and forend. The bluing looks better in person and bore is excellent. Note added wood at rear of butt. Payed around $2000(Can) about two years ago.
Ridolpho
I wonder if the added butt was to bring it up to a long? Or a replacement because of a recoil pad added at one point...?
I don't know, BAR, but it's extremely well done and shows lots of signs of wear and tear. Also wondered if this might be one of the type mentioned by Peter L. which have the new sight bridge brazed on? If you look at this closeup it appears kind of rough along the right side.
Ridolpho
Looks like it could be one of the 18 shilling conversions Ridolpho. There was a thread about these extended No1 rifle butts some years ago, where the extensions were dovetailed (or buttressed?) in place
Peter: When time permits I'll dig this rifle out and try to take some real clear closeups of the rear action body. Regards.
Ridolpho
You should be able to see the line of braze...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridolpho
I have just purchased a MK V dated 1923 and paid A$2150.00 in really good condition, all matching numbers and mint bore. Unfortunately it is missing the front band securing the nose cap. By the sound of things may have paid too much.
It makes youi wonder why there was a need for a top nosecap band. After all, nothing changed at that end. The stresses and strains remained the same. Bayonet fixings, cup discharger loadings were the same. Top handguard fittings the same....., under the nosecap at one end, lower band at the other. Indeed, except for a few internal odds and sods, so was the fore-end - to the extent that the conversion even used the original fore-ends albeit slightly modified.
As a matter of interest, this nose-cap band arrangement was a feature on one of the lightweight rifle prototypes. Mind you, that was for another reason.....
Comments anyone.........
No, you actually have one, I haven't even seen one here for several years. Ridolpho picked up what would amount to the only one loose here in a long time. So be happy and now you can see if these guys can guide you on how to make a front band...Quote:
Originally Posted by smith3006
[QUOTE=Peter Laidler;371024]It makes youi wonder why there was a need for a top nosecap band. After all, nothing changed at that end. The stresses and strains remained the same. Bayonet fixings, cup discharger loadings were the same. Top handguard fittings the same....., under the nosecap at one end, lower band at the other. Indeed, except for a few internal odds and sods, so was the fore-end - to the extent that the conversion even used the original fore-ends albeit slightly modified.
Peter, this was my original thought when first seeing the rifle. Not being well versed in .303 rifles, I originally thought there was a mismatch of woods as there was a provision for a band that seemed to contradict the nose cap that was so familiar with later rifle versions. Skennerton provided the word description but yet to see an actual band and how it fitted.
We have that here someplace... https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....MkV+front+bandQuote:
Originally Posted by smith3006
1923 is the rarer year with only about 2000 madeQuote:
Originally Posted by smith3006
That makes me feel a whole better. Thanks also to BAR as I have bookmarked that thread to help chase down a band eventually. Can also see now how it was fitted. Can't wait to get the MK V licenced and get it home which is a lengthy process here. Not sure whether its an 18 or 20 shilling piece. When you are a bayonet/ edge weapons collector for nearly 40 years to now get into longarms is very different and not sure whether I am moving from or into the dark side. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 5thBatt
Regarding the part of the thread that BAR posted, when I fitted the band shown it was on a NOS fore-end and handguard, the originals or original rifles did not have any part cutaway for the band, you may see some slight marks or colour difference where the band was fitted and nothing else, any signs of major removal then I would guess its a later fore-end and hand guard or the wrong band fitted.Quote:
Originally Posted by smith3006
Well, I wanted to just show him the make up of the band and what it looked like in parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigduke6
Understand Jim, appreciate it too..... my hand was as steady as a surgeon that day, post #37 was just to clarify the difference as I'd hate to think of anyone carving up there No1 Mk V fore-end.....for no reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
For anyone interested the thread I posted regarding a budget build of a Mk V, It is in the stickies on the Restorers corner, in the last of the pics the rifle I imported was sold last year and possible the main one in the thread will be also sold..... all depends on the funds and what sell and what doesn't. Don't be alarmed I'm not selling up, just raising cash for the most recent purchase.
still have mine , im not inclined to sell quite yet ,
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Nice, nice...
Quick update. We agreed on a price and it is now sold for AUD$3000.
....hmmmm, what will the next acquisition be?
Well, I have been away for 2 weeks deep sea fishing and come back to see the sale at a "record" price!! Well done on negotiating that. Can't wait to get mine home to post some pics.
Thats a good price, A$3000 = £1740 , sold mine last year for just under that .........