Why so much for this? It is very very nice but this price? Am I missing something?
M1 Carbine Underwood MINT ORIGINAL US Rifle WWII : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
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Why so much for this? It is very very nice but this price? Am I missing something?
M1 Carbine Underwood MINT ORIGINAL US Rifle WWII : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
It look's like it was kept under someones bed during WW-2 and never went to war, I like to see more wear and dings on a WW-2 carbine, a been their, did that, look. could care less about a new looking gun with little look's of an old combat vet. with the battle scares of history. naaa....not for me, JMO.
Others thought otherwise. Crazy sales like this and the gander mountain asking prices are making this a unfun sport
Now that I am bitten by the bug I am looking forward to someone explaining why the example noted is so pricey. Is this sector of collecting undergoing an explosion of interest lately, like vintage safety razors for example? Bitten by that bug too.
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You mean like this wear? The circle P is worn down and the grip shows the wear from field use. From repeatedly being set down and leaned against something I assume.Quote:
Originally Posted by lboos
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...100_7037-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...100_7035-1.jpg
Looks like it's seen very little use. Has just enough dust/grease/oil to make me think that it hasn't been refinished. As said I like that 'been there-done that look'.
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=38776
Yes the for sale one does look rather pristine. Mine in the pics shows some wear but not oo bad. But about the one for sale, is it rare enough to warrant a 7k price tag?Quote:
Originally Posted by shadycon
Not even close to that. BTW, the front sight pin has been messed with and even has had some touch up bluing done to the end of the pin. At the issue with the front right edge of the dovetail...chipping, covered up stake mark or glare?Quote:
Originally Posted by HDSledge
Some of you are thinking it's a real auction. What a couple of guys have always done is run a fake auction for attention or they do it to fool a noob into offering the same or similar amount of money for some mint, pristine arm and the seller sinks the hook deeply into the noob 'letting' them buy it.
Not knowing anything about that particular items' value, I thought it was a real auction. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that employees or friends are shill bidding the price up. Vintage firearms auctions are apparently a great place for scammers to make some money they didn't earn.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenOC
deldriver,Quote:
Originally Posted by deldriver
You have sharp eye's, looking at pic.23 and 49 you can see where the front sight pin has been messed with and an attempt to cover it up, same thing on the front right edge of the dovetail.
I know because I have done this same thing on one a few years back, but did not do it to try and pass it off as "MINT WW-2 gun",.... I was just trying to put the correct sight and bayonet lug on a gun that's all.
I still don't think their is such a thing as a mint WW-2 carbine, except for a few that may have been sent to a museum from the co. that made them. JMO.
They forget the camera picks up things the eye won't.
There is no way this can be a real sale, NO ONE is that dumb and of the 2 bidders one has 8 feedbacks but the other one has 551 feed backs so he must be more "seasoned" in the auction world. If it is real I have an Underwood that is just as nice and I could use 7K
Are fake sales on the firearm auction a very common occurrence?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali201
I only have my iPhone to see pics on but my basic reaction to gun was most likely original. If it would have been redone I think person reworking would have made it with one of the coded receivers. I don't buy fact that was a real auction. Reminds me of a collector car auction. If humped pictures would not be so nice
They are not uncommon. Unfortunately carbines have fallen into the same cesspool of fakery that the Nazi stuff fell into years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by HDSledge
Here's a link to an old thread on this same subject. The links will be out of date, but there's good information here for first time carbine buyers and those shopping on Gun Broker. Page 3 (Post 23) even mentions one of the bidders on the Underwood in the current thread. Take a look. ;) - Bob
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=27323
Great thread! Buyer beware takes on a new meaning with these carbines.Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Fake auctions happen in everything. Local car auction once a month you can watch several cars set the standard on number of bids and for how much. Suddenly an ordinary car comes up and there are more bidders bidding up the price with authority creating a buzz in the crowd....and it's a team who is bidding on their own car hoping a sucker will want in on the action since it's such an obvious deal to those other bidders.
Lucky indeed to have been offered mine by the family that owned it since the mid 40's.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenOC