I'm a lefty and have fired guns that eject more back than sideways. Not uncommon for us lefties to get hit in the head or safety glasses.
How is the M1A1 ejection pattern? Throws it wide I hope.
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I'm a lefty and have fired guns that eject more back than sideways. Not uncommon for us lefties to get hit in the head or safety glasses.
How is the M1A1 ejection pattern? Throws it wide I hope.
why would a carbine ejection pattern be different in a M1A1 stock vs. a regular stock?
I have no idea since I have never fired an M1A1 before. That is why I asked the question. To see if they are prone to throwing brass back at the operator should he be a lefty. <0Quote:
Originally Posted by cali201
Edit: after watching your excellent historical video I can see that they eject almost laterally and out a foot or two. No worries.
I have 11 carbines (#12 is on the way, this is a sick hobby lol), one in an M1A1 stock and never gave it any thought, I cannot imagine there would be any difference if the same action was in either stock. Think the mechanics of the action dictate where the brass goes and the stock would only come into play if it interfered with that process which I cannot see it happening with an M1A1 stock vs a regular stock IMO.
I think I phrased my question wrong. I was curious about the eject direction but I never assumed the stock would make a difference. My question should have been: What is the ejection pattern of the M1 Carbine? My brain is stuck on M1A1.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali201
12? Sounds like you have quite a collection. I am hopeful I won't be as badly infected as you are since I don't have room for the gear I already own. At least that is what my wife says. I still have room to stand up a few cases in the corners though.
Only 11?? Some of us can't remember back that far.
As far as the action throwing the cases, should be the same. Though being as the M1A1 can be held in different manners, a person could have his face in a different firing position then with a full wood stock. I'm sure once struck, that would be adjusted.
The three different shaped ejectors supposedly send the cases in different directions. I think that a more common approach would be that the carbine ejects as it is lubricated, just like the Garand. It is directly related to how well the weapon is lubed and somewhat by the ejector type. I use grease on mine, a lot of grease and it ejects at 4:oclock to 5: oclock about 6 feet away. Dry or poorly lubed they can come back straight into your forehead.
The angled arm of the later type L series slides were supposed to also help with ejection too.
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Originally Posted by DaveHH
Perfect, that is what I was looking for. Angle and distance. What kind of grease do you use Dave? All I have is the old lubriplate.Quote:
Originally Posted by deldriver
My Inland with round bolt throws them over my head and behind me. My friends Underwood also a round bolt, tossed them to about 2:30 3:00. My daughter likes the M1 Carbine but she does get a case on her head every 20 shots or so shooting right handed.
Dave
Along with the angled slide, the ejector can help control the ejection angle. There are 3 different ejector shapes. Figure out which one you have then try the other two. They can have a big effect on the ejection angle.
According to uscarbinecal30 I have a type 2 or type 3 ejector. I was leaning to type 3 ejector since in March 1943 it was reported that Inland had made the change already (mine is April assy.) and that only ones in service were fitted with type 2's (modified type 1's). But on having a closer look the curve on the top side of the cutout is a bit different and the notch at the top is still present, so mine must? be a type 2. Pics of mine show a type 2 (notched) plunger and a type 1 (faceted) ejector. Ref pic from uscarbinecal30.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimb16
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ps. Needs a good cleaning. Although the debris is just dust and old grease now that I've seen it up close it has to go.
Any info out there on the ejection habits of the 3 types of ejectors?
Lubriplate is fine. I certainly would get myself a bolt tool and take that apart. I do mine inside a large plastic bag so parts don't fly away. Inside the areas where the ejector and extractor plunger reside can be full of unburned powder, carbon chips and general dirt. This limits the travel and coats the spring coils. The parts will not work as well when dirty. The type 2 and three are similar with the 3 having more flat surface. The operating spring can also make a gun sluggish. Replacing the spring is a cheap last resort item. My two originals a 5.4 Inland and a 5.6 Win both have their original springs and operate flawlessly. The rebuilt NPM had a weak spring when it arrived from CMP. Changing the spring made it work perfectly.
Great suggestion about taking it apart inside a plastic bag. Don't have the tool yet. Could I get by for now with Break Free CLP or Birchwood Casey Synthetic Safe Gun Scrubber? I may have a can around here somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveHH