L12A1 .22 Kit for the L1A1 rifle

I was not sure where to post this item, either here or on the FN / FAL forum but hopefully all those who my be interested will find it.
I finally managed to aquired the missing barrel assembly to complete the items that I already had, with the exception of one of the magazines (thanks Geoff) the other items are all unused.
I do not have the original box so I had to make this one using photos and the actual items as a guide, with the exception of the locking catches it is a reasonable copy and will certainly do until (if ever) the real thing turns up.
The H&K marks on the breech assembly show up very well but less so on the barrel. The magazines have had there original numbers "barred out" but only one has had its new number 1005-12-147-6963 restamped.
I have also included a picture of the spare firing pin that came with the breech assembly.

Nice looking kit, those are a great thing when you have the rifle set to "A"...lots of fun... You need to boys with buckets to keep ammo to it though.

Because H&K didn't have access to UK MIlitary lug type magazines, they supplied them to H&K with the orders for the kits as what was described as 'embodiment loan'. H&K modified them to suit the kits. That's why you see the old UK 1005-99-960-0017 number barred through

Well done Buccaneer, we few are a small band of bloody minded determined enthusiast's who have gone to some very considerable effort (and expense) to put these kits together!

I love shooting mine, hope you get just as much pleasure from yours.

I acquired a spare magazine from Mike yesterday and just need the box to complete my made up kit now.

No need to be determined and bluddy minded Clarkie, the complete kits are still available in the US aren't they? Or am I missing something?

Evening Peter, not sure on the availability of the US assembled kits now. All comms have gone very quiet on that front for some time now unfortunately.

Brian very kindly offered his assistance with the export of more kits, (small potential UK market for Fal/L1A1 owners), but it's all largely academic now.

Hopefully there might be an other option, we will have to see how things pan out..

Cheers John

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

Nice looking kit, those are a great thing when you have the rifle set to "A"...lots of fun... You need to boys with buckets to keep ammo to it though.

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Unfortunatly full auto is illegal here in the UK so we have to be happy with semi, at least it makes the ammo last longer........:madsmile:

Morning Buccaneer, what make SP L1A1 rifle are you running your kit in, any issues with bore fit for the liner?

Just got a reply. Kits are available from the US. Mostly original parts but new made mags and softee bag instead of box.

Great stuff Peter, good news to start the week with, is that Ray, I haven't had any comms back from Ray in quite a while??

Paul excellent job on the box.......... must apologise for not getting the measurements, brain is like a sieve at present, too much on and not enough time.....

To import the kits is just not viable, unless the exporter will do a deal, I looked at it a few years back and Brian would of done a deal on the export for 10 kits I worked out a rough price and had no takers apart from Myself and Mr Clark...........the other snag at present is the lack of Straight pull L1A1's as they seem to have dried up........... the other issue was the straight pulls were being produced with a mix of barrels........... mentioned it all before so won't go on.

The good news......... I've a few bits that I've back Engineered and just the barrel to go but have had a very generous offer from a forum member of a loan of one to copy and back engineer (Thanks John will let you know soon when I intend to start) so I'm guessing they will be available or made to order here at some point........

No problem Geoff, happy to help mate. As you say, when you take in the current purchase price of the new US kits and add the export cost (with the small potential number involved) , it becomes prohibitively expensive.

I was very fortunate with my kit as it came 2nd hand via a good friend in Wichita (who added the spare liner) and it was shipped along with an RFD mates consignment that was heading to Blightly. The stars were in alignment so to speak...

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Originally Posted by mrclark303

Morning Buccaneer, what make SP L1A1 rifle are you running your kit in, any issues with bore fit for the liner?

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The straight pull is one from Suffolk firearms, probably one of his last as I now understand he is no longer trading. The H&K liner I have is unissued and required polishing on a surface plate to get it to fit smoothly, the barrel on this rifle is I believe Italian but I could be wrong the action and breech block are Australian.
For those outside the UK the "bitsa" make up of this rifle is to comply with UK firearms law with regard to semi auto rifles above .22, in essence all semi autos above .22 are Section 5 and are not available to the general public.
The law is quite specific in that a "Section 5" semi auto rifle can't be converted to "Section 1straight pull rifle nor can the parts from a "Section 5" rifle be used to build a "Section 1" rifle.
However as "Section 5" only applies to rifles in the UK then parts from say an Australian rifle can be used which is why my straight pull is the way it is.
If you have managed to follow this well done as the "Section 5" rules have cought out more than one person in the past.:confused:

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Unfortunatly full auto is illegal here in the UK

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Yes, here too but I ran mine back in the days when we carried the FNs still.

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

The straight pull is one from Suffolk firearms, probably one of his last as I now understand he is no longer trading. The H&K liner I have is unissued and required polishing on a surface plate to get it to fit smoothly, the barrel on this rifle is I believe Italian but I could be wrong the action and breech block are Australian.
For those outside the UK the "bitsa" make up of this rifle is to comply with UK firearms law with regard to semi auto rifles above .22, in essence all semi autos above .22 are Section 5 and are not available to the general public.
The law is quite specific in that a "Section 5" semi auto rifle can't be converted to "Section 1straight pull rifle nor can the parts from a "Section 5" rifle be used to build a "Section 1" rifle.
However as "Section 5" only applies to rifles in the UK then parts from say an Australian rifle can be used which is why my straight pull is the way it is.
If you have managed to follow this well done as the "Section 5" rules have cought out more than one person in the past.

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Hi Paul,

My L1A1 was the first example built up by Suffolk Rifles, (Enfield 1962 dated). With regard to your Lithgow, I think all the serial numbers I looked up for Neal when he first purchased that batch, were originally Malay contract examples. Quite a large batch of ex Malay rifles were shipped to Europe (Germany) about the turn of the century

The majority were deactivated or reduced to parts ... good to see yours was assembled as a straight pull in Italy and not deactivated or scrapped! Yep, Italian barrels were used in the build, same company that made the SP Garand barrels too I think.

I had to carry out the same "knats private parts" reduction to the liner to fit my Enfield too, (slightly more bore wear than my Lithgow L1), the liner won't go past the chamber on that rifle! The upside of this is you can make the liner a really good fit, so very good accuracy is quite achievable.

When I check fitted the spare liner in an original L1A1 barrel at an RFD's, it clattered down the bore and was about as loose as throwing a sausage down the high street! To be fair, still good enough for 25 yds I suppose .... just about.

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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

Just got a reply. Kits are available from the US. Mostly original parts but new made mags and softee bag instead of box.

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I am assuming of coarse we are talking about the same kit maker Peter??