I had this out to photograph for a friend.
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I had this out to photograph for a friend.
Nice rifle. Did your friend get out and put some rounds through it yet?
That's a beauty; is there any provenance? There is a database of serial numbers and rifle features over at Welcome to Ross Rifle if you would care to add this to the list.
Sorry for misunderstanding, the Mark II** is mine. The friend wanted the photos. I have not and will not fire it. I have fired my friend's target Ross and find the stock dimensions/shape to be quite punishing.
I find it interesting how they moved the front cap back about 4" on these. I'd think removing it all together would have been easier and still effective.
Actually it's the other way around; on the original MkII** they used a standard stock, and a barrel which was about 2" longer than standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
To meet the rules it had to take a bayonet, so they are one with a 2" longer hilt.
Then they made a 2" long bar extension for a standard bayonet to lock into.
The 3rd variation used a longer stock so that a standard bayonet could be used and the geometry of the stock was the same as a standard service rifle.
Well that makes more sense. I didn't know these were specially made that way, always thought they' been altered. Very interesting...we had one as a marksmanship trophy in my Battalion for years and the many times I saw it I thought it had been altered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Enfield
Looks like the receiver has been tapped for the Ross milled sight base.
The first year the Cdn military team team took the MkII with the light barrel to Bisley they did poorly. The next year they returned with first MkII** with the heavy 30" barrel and short stock rifles. The heavy barrel was a close copy of the profile of the Long Lee barrel. The Brits complained it was not a service rifle since it did not take a bayonet. The Cdns replied it was a rifle in service with militia not divulging that it was only in service with the Bisley team. The next year the Cdn team arrived with the long bt lug model II**.
The II** was the rifle that established the Ross rifes reputation for accuracy.
Not sure if you shoot cast bullets. IMR 4198 with 185-195 grn cast gas checked bullet comes out at 1700 FPS and no recoil too speak of. PM me and I can give you the load I am using.Quote:
Originally Posted by breakeyp
Thank you for the loading information. Unfortunately I don't reload. The target Rosses tend to a very tight bore which adds to felt recoil along with an axe like butt profile driving into your shoulder. They were men in those days.
Your front sight hood is on backwards--fairly common malady with these rifles. How is the bore? I agree about the shoulder. I think that that rifle should be sent a long way away from your shoulder to prevent any possibility of further pain. For safekeeping, I volunteer my basement here in Vernon, BC......always happy to have another Ross.
Ed
Here is a pick of a few of the originals. My Grandfather is the cheery one below the arrow. Zooming in I see what BAR meant about the fore stock. I looked again the hoods are all the same way, My mistake.
Here's a link to an 85 picture photo montage of the 1905 Ross Mk II** Civilian Target Rifle in my collection ...
1905 Ross Mk II** Civilian Target Rifle Serial # 4901 (click here)
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Regards,
Doug
I've been to Cornwall, seen the ST&G armories there. Where would those barracks have been, any idea Jerry?Quote:
Originally Posted by JerryEAL
The picture mentions Cornwall on the bottom. I have no idea. I am the curator of the small family photo collection now, with little to no history on anything. I am glad a few have rifles of interest in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle