Very early Seal Team poses for a picture before entering The Rung Sat Special Zone in Vietnam.
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Very early Seal Team poses for a picture before entering The Rung Sat Special Zone in Vietnam.
Jeez, 2nd from right looks like something from Hell Boy!!!
Before the 30 round magazine became available for the M16, note the Stoner 63 machine guns - which I believe was the first belt fed 5,56mm. Stoner links and not quite the same as the M249 M27 links
Why do they all look like GIJoe's?
We used to call that long 'grass' stuff 'lallang' It would shred your clothing in a short while. As I recall, it had little barbs running down the edges so even when it was cut short it would start to chomp away at your thin rubberised lightweight jungle boots. So high protected 'boots combat' became the norm. I never remember it that long though as I think it was cropped and used for whatever they used it for in Malaya and SVn
They use lalang grass for thatching roofs.
The tall grass in the picture looks like elephant grass.
jonnyc, you nailed it. This is a picture of VERY high end action figures. They are 1/6th scale and can run over $200 a pop. Made by a company called Hot Toys.
Googlefu found this review.
Vietnam Navy Seals action figures - Another Toy Review by Michael Crawford, Captain Toy
Ka-Ching!
When do I get my winnings?
Not the best photo but a lot of detailshttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../14csb69-1.jpg
In Vietnam a rather large capacity mag may I ask is that an SLR or a FNAL rifle
Interesting curved mag in the middle.
franken magazine - modified AK 47 magazine to fit upper magazine body of an M16 magazine (are you really going to use this kind of home-made magazine in combathttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../30c109c-1.jpg
Question is, did it work?
Evidently not that well otherwise they mods would have been common?
JUST what I thought when I saw that pic (thread 12) RCS. It is an L1A1 in thread 10 and the magazine loooks like it's a UK made L4 Bren mag because our L4 30 rounders were slightly curved whereas the Aust 30 rounders were straight.
Although I've never tried that double pistol grip on an L1A1, I have used a few zillion L1A1's and 2's. Quite how the front grip stayed firm attached to the laminated wood part of a set of laminated fabricated handguards, rivetted to the end caps was quite beyond me. And how was the grip affixed? Screwed to what? How did the two halves not separate under load? Think about it!
Mickey mouse watches spring to mind. Looks good for the folks back home - but not a lot of use when it comes to telling the time! Same applies to photo 12 I feel
I remember looking at some photo of a field modified L1A1 with the barrel cut back and rigged-up to fire full auto, it was called "the bitch" anyone recall this modification
The bolt carrier says L1A1 and the blokes and the sign in the background says re-enactor, but that's just an opinion.
Is it true there were Navy Seals in WW2 and were only issued Shorts, Flippers and Goggles. I read that's all they had and LOTS of C2 with fuses for underwater demo. You know how stories can get on the internet. If it is its amazing how they evolved to what they are today by learning through each conflict. I didn't know they existed in WW2. I'm sure there were some group of men that did there own recon, and go deep behind enemy lines in WW2 I've read books about them.
Merrills marauders fit the bill.
Google "UDT", the US Navy boys who pre-date SEALs
So were Canadian 30s, straight...Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Wingate was another, from my limited reading of materials over the years as with everything specialised soldiers have evolved since the dawn of time look at Sparta training began from a very early age and any male child born that was considered weakly was killed. Fast forwards through the conflicts like the Civil war they employed sharp shooters to take out key personnel like Officers and gun crews. Through WWI with the German Stormtroopers WWII we saw the Commandos the SS. Through Korea & Vietnam to today with troops very highly trained in specific groups like Navy SEALS, Snipers, Special forces, SAS, SASR other countries with their specialized highly trained personnel.
With the way technology is going now the automated fighting robot is not a far thought as they use robotic pack mules now look at metal storm with the silent sentinal gun waiting for you to get in range totally autonomous personnel will find it hard to survive if you think the Terminator is a while off I think within the next 50 years humans will not fight in the field of conflict robots will.........
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...GTZJbK67Yw-JwQ
Straight and curved 30 round L2 rifle and L4 Bren magazines. I think that the UK curved mags were designed to be more reliable in that the slight curvature more followed the actual curvature of a dual stack of ammo. So the theory goes! But curved or straight, they all seemed to work just as well. Additionally, the curved mags had a UK patent attached to them so they couldn't be pirated - much like the body mods and ejector systems for the L4 series of guns. SO....., if anyone purchsed L4 guns, they'd also HAVE to buy L4 mags, spares and barrels. That was the theory. But L4 buyers across the world who bought L1 rifles cheaper from Australia soon found out that the Canadian and Aust straight mags were just as good PLUS, Australia could and would sell them all they wanted and cheaper too. Same applied to new L4 barrels. Aust could make and sell cheaper than we could. Talk about cutting off our noses top spite our face!
I think I've told this saga several times.
Yes, that's the theory. UK mags had a wire spring that worked fine and CDN mags had a flat spring like Bren mags. That must have been because of the actuate curve as the 20 rd mags had a wire spring...Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Damn skippy I would use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
There was no such thing as a 7.62x39mm M16 magazine back then. The only mags available for the converted 7.62x39mm M16’s were the spliced “Franken mags.”
It’s an M-16 mag joined to an AK47 mag. The M16 part of the mag goes in the mag well. The AK part starts outside the mag well.
I have two “Franken mags” somewhere. I will try to find them and take some pictures. They don’t look homemade. They look well made, like a De Lisle carbine looks. It was made from parts cobbled together and it looked and worked just fine.
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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
That's typical of govt AND big business! :rofl:
Seal Team #1 was close to my unit during my stay on Coronado 1967 to 1971. Those men carried telephone poles over their heads most of the day. In and out of the chow hall in a couple minutes. We practiced beach landings with them on the ocean side of the strand. In shape bunch of guys. Finely trained in special ops.
Over time other teams have been added to the base, #3, #5, #7. The odd numbered teams on the west coast. The even numbered teams are in Virginia Beach on the east coast.
I just missed you, I went to Coronado and trained on the same spit in Dec '74.