What an education I got filling it out. Took me 5 minutes. (not)
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What an education I got filling it out. Took me 5 minutes. (not)
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ta_Sheet-1.jpg
I think you might need to make some corrections to it, unless you already have. That's the fun part of filling out Data Sheets - trying to get them right. :D Let's see what the others think. - Bob
Don't be so mysterious there Bob :), where do you see something that needs fixin'?Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Look carefully. For one thing, did you check the boxes defining your slide type?
Now I feel like a kid in class at the chalkboard and I just added 2 plus 2 and came up with 5 in front of everybody. I've double checked all the boxes and can't see a mistake anywhere. Did I miss one of the numbers or the letter at the end? Spill the beans boyz. What do you see?Quote:
Originally Posted by CrossedCannons
Oh, did you mean mark the slide type boxes with a checkmark? I didn't mark them since the number/letter in the corresponding box is used to form the code to place in the empty space under SLIDE. Ted from CC either missed it or I was correct to not mark them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrossedCannons
"Great M1A1 data sheet! It has been passed on to our archivist. Thank you for providing it to us and happy collecting! Cheers! Ted"
Do I need to check mark them and send along another copy?
I have had nought to do with that type of form but have filled out a few others and honestly with a busy page like that your bound to be missing the forest for the trees bit like a dangerous goods audit for storage and compliance I did by myself at the power station I worked at.
I can see boxes that are not ticked so am taking it that the marks are not there you do not tick it, though I did notice the recoil plate and recoil screw bottom right is not ticked
My recoil plate has no marks and the recoil plate is different for the M1A1. Neither screw is applicable, hence no mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
I believe both the recoil plate and recoil plate screw "boxes" are meant only for the M1. I usually put (4) red dashes (hyphens) in boxes where I have no input, to indicate those boxes weren't overlooked. It is a very "busy" form! I have an Inland M1 with a s/n in the 400K range, and just finished comparing my data sheet with HDSledge's. A lot of the choices made when filling out these forms are subjective in nature. I marked my dogleg hammer as "white" (no finish) but it could be blued. I questioned the shape of his "N" front sight but went back, took a look at his pictures, and agree. The unmarked handguard - not sure on that one. I do see discrepancies with the slide stop, barrel skirt, slide type, and mag catch. Not all are pictured, but some parts on his M1A1 appear to be later designs than the ones on my M1. But, I've learned there are reasons why that sometimes happened - I do have to admit that's the nicest looking "Paratrooper" I've ever seen - as well as excellent photos! :thup: - Bob
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Originally Posted by USGI
Thanks Bob,
I took it to a friend who collects to look at and he wouldn't stop holding it. I was afraid he was not going to let me have it back. :)
Data Sheet: CrossedCanons and ISGI are correct. The boxes are indeed supposed to be checked on the slide section according to the archivists. The example they sent me shows the boxes filled in obscuring the letters.
They also pointed out the handguard. I couldn't find a noticeable mark anywhere on it so I left it blank. When I have it out in the spare stock I will look again. I read somewhere that not all handguards have a mark. (uscarbinecal30?) I'll try some contrast lighting and filters within photoshop to see if I can spot a mark.
Re. slide stop, barrel skirt, slide type, and mag catch. My slide stop has a detent area like the one in selection 2. Drawing does not seem to be to scale though on the dimensions. My mag catch is definitely the type 2. The inventory sheet for my serial number indicates a type 2 slide, a type 2A mag catch and either a type 2 or 3 slide stop.
What is a type 3 slide stop? It is not on the sheet as a choice. What is the type 2A mag catch? Also did you mean chamber skirt? Mine is definitely the short one.
My arm joint is a type 1 not a type 2.
Thanks guys!
Getting closer? Thanks.
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Not there yet. Going to fill in some other blanks with n/a, etc.
Slide info was off, it is E169A. I see how this form is one you probably don't get right the first time (or third) :).
Here is what I have so far:
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I have Inland #999762, although items like the stock and barrel are known not original, would the Carbine Club be interested in a submission on mine?
Darren: Seems like I remember something about that s/n being a bit unusual. In that case, I bet they would be interested.
HDSledge: Regarding your data sheet, I usually give up when I get about that far on one! I still think you need to make corrections on the mag catch type and the barrel (chamber) skirt. The pictures of yours look identical to the ones on my 400K Inland - and I checked different boxes. I'm not 100% sure I'm correct, though. - Bob
As a suggestion, maybe just put 3/4" for the length measurement at the back of the receiver.
Thanks Bob. You are correct about the mag catch I have the type 3. Not sure how I missed that since it is an easy one. Also will use 3/4" on length from cut to the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
I attached pics from uscarbinecal30 and one of my chamber since I may be misreading where the skirt ends. I assume it is the short one since it matches the first example pic with the hollow cut a half inch away from the top of the skirt. Is my chamber skirt defined best by A or B?
Thanks again.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ortskirt-1.jpghttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ongskirt-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...irt_type-1.jpg
Long skirt
Also, parkerized is a finish type not a color.
Thanks! What color then?Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianQ
Had my question answered by Ted. Seems it can be very subjective. I think my color for parked is a greenish grey. Not sure exactly how to name the colors but will give it some thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by HDSledge
Looks like I am getting closer thanks to you guys. <0
You nailed every one. Just pulled out the slide stop and it is the top one.Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Congratulations. Now put that one in the safe, go buy your next carbine and make out a data sheet on it! :thup: - Bob
Woot!Quote:
Originally Posted by USGI
Only problem is I will have to field strip any I see now before I would consider buying it. I will want to eyeball every part and sellers may balk at that. Haven't searched at gun shows yet but I suspect a seller may not welcome that kind of inspection.
How do you guys deal with sellers at shows as far as the inspection process?