Tommy Gun

I know there are different Caliber Thompson Sub-Machine Guns. I don't know which this is as I'm no expert. I don't even know if this is a Original one after WW1, but this is a Nice one. Since the Case is for a Violin or a Small Guitar all I can think of this as being a Chicago Typewriter. Very Nice one at that. My eyes can't focus on the writing, would anyone know what a Original one would go for. The last time I seen a original one was in Houston, TX at a International Gun Show in the very late 80's or very early 90's and it had a price tag of $10,500. I do remember that as I looked at it for quite awhile. Only If....

I would say in my opinion, this is a made up item. Gangsters obviously modified violin cases for Thompsons, but they wouldn't go to all the trouble of having various little compartments. To accept all the different bits & Bobs!
I mean the front grip is held on with a screw. WHY would they take both grips along on a job in the same case? They wouldn't have time waiting 'on a job'. To unscrew the horizontal front grip screw, & remove the grip. Then locate the long screw for the vertical grip & then fit that.
The whole purpose of the case, was to disguise & carry the weapon to it's deployment location. Then quickly whip it out & (Generally) fit the 50 round mag & use the Gun.

From reports I have read from official sources, on Gangsters of that era. A VAST amount of them could NOT shoot accurately with handguns!
Also, quite a lot of them were not the brightest of individuals either!....They didn't have the nouse in a lot of cases, to think too deeply. About the technical aspects of their chosen 'Profession'!...The 'act first, without thinking it all through' scenario. Was quite common.

This is one of the major reasons the Thompson was the weapon of choice, for gangsters. Not being good shots, the 'spraying' technique of full-auto Guns.
Was a better option for them then! The Police only took them on strength as well, so as to be on a 'level playing field' so to speak. It evened things up for them.

I believe SOME cases were modified officially. But this was more for novelty value, than tactical. Auto-Ordanance did indeed make purpose designed transit cases for Thompsons. But there were recqtangular in shape, with a folding handle on the hinging lid.

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Originally Posted by tankhunter

I would say in my opinion, this is a made up item. Gangsters obviously modified violin cases for Thompsons, but they wouldn't go to all the trouble of having various little compartments. To accept all the different bits & Bobs!
I mean the front grip is held on with a screw. WHY would they take both grips along on a job in the same case? They wouldn't have time waiting 'on a job'. To unscrew the horizontal front grip screw, & remove the grip. Then locate the long screw for the vertical grip & then fit that.
The whole purpose of the case, was to disguise & carry the weapon to it's deployment location. Then quickly whip it out & (Generally) fit the 50 round mag & use the Gun.

From reports I have read from official sources, on Gangsters of that era. A VAST amount of them could NOT shoot accurately with handguns!
Also, quite a lot of them were not the brightest of individuals either!....They didn't have the nouse in a lot of cases, to think too deeply. About the technical aspects of their chosen 'Profession'!...The 'act first, without thinking it all through' scenario. Was quite common.

This is one of the major reasons the Thompson was the weapon of choice, for gangsters. Not being good shots, the 'spraying' technique of full-auto Guns.
Was a better option for them then! The Police only took them on strength as well, so as to be on a 'level playing field' so to speak. It evened things up for them.

I believe SOME cases were modified officially. But this was more for novelty value, than tactical. Auto-Ordanance did indeed make purpose designed transit cases for Thompsons. But there were recqtangular in shape, with a folding handle on the hinging lid.

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Clearly made up as you say Mike, it appears to be a late 1930's / early WW2 model and the pistol grip looks to be repro, but a bit of fun non the less ... for those that can afford such things! Not only do you get a 1928A1 with both forends, plus a drum magazine ... but you also get a camouflaged Viola case, potentially a very useful item for any string quartet under fire..

There was a limited market for the Colt 100 round drums which were used in many gangland shootings. The police had them too but not often seen in old photos. The US
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A while ago the wife and I stopped into H&H Music for a saxophone case. The salesman asked what kind of saxophone the case was for. She who must be obeyed said it wasn’t for a saxophone, “it’s for a machine gun.” The salesman didn’t bat an eye. “Hard or soft case?” he replied.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...Sterling-1.jpg

It also has shoulder straps so you can carry it like a backpack.

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Originally Posted by imntxs564

My eyes can't focus on the writing, would anyone know what a Original one would go for.

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Subgun prices as of July 2016 click on “US TSMG M1 & M1A1” for Thompson prices.

I wouldn't recommend making a similar request to a sales person in a U.K. music shop, Vincent. You may find that you end up with something other than saxophone case if you say it's for a machine gun.

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Originally Posted by Vincent

It also has shoulder straps

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Hey...that's not a Thompson...!

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Originally Posted by imntxs564

I don't know which this is

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You can see the marking of 1928A1 Frank...yes, it's a made up. The Cutts is late and has the logo on the side. Also, you couldn't close the case with all that junk floating around in there...look at it...

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

You can see the marking of 1928A1 Frank...yes, it's a made up. The Cutts is late and has the logo on the side. Also, you couldn't close the case with all that junk floating around in there...look at it...

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Jim, I was hoping you would see this. I saw that and figured it was a display case. I was making the remark "Chicago Typewriter" because it was in a case. I've only held one time. I couldn't make out the writing, but knew you would by just looking at it. Thanks for the info.

There's also a crosspin under the barrel shank through the receiver at that point. Makes one think it's a .22 version... It probably runs like a champ though. Also the Semi/FA selector is a stub there...over the magazine catch. Only the safety lever...

Nice sterling case. Can pack lots of magazines

Here's Possibly another one, but as of now I'm looking for a another M1 Carbine

Check out what I found on GunBroker.com!
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/603883958

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Check out what I found on GunBroker.com!

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That's one of the new ones Frank, you can tell as there's no finger spring for the center of the pivot plate, it would hold the rocker pivot in place. And of course the 16" barrel.

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

That's one of the new ones Frank, you can tell as there's no finger spring for the center of the pivot plate, it would hold the rocker pivot in place. And of course the 16" barrel.

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Yeah...There several posted there that are New....It would be fun just to have one...After the surgery I'm planning on staying at the Ranch a few days and just have fun...I need to get out and away from all this and have some fun.

I personally reckon and recommend a good dose of and smell of burnt gunpowder it is far better than any prescription drugs the quacks can offer to make one feel well again.......................Hope you get better soon imntxs564.

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Originally Posted by imntxs564

It would be fun just to have one

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One of those would be fun enough... I had a 1927 (new model) for a bit waaaay back. I didn't like the long barrel, nor the fires from a closed bolt thing. It's bolt was an M1 bolt modified and had more springs that you can imagine...made it deathly hard to cock. The firing pin would about rupture the primer too. The recoil was almost untenable considering it was just a .45. The whole idea that you had to use a modified mag was repugnant though. The underside of the mag housing wasn't completely machined so you couldn't just use correct mags. The trigger mech was only half machined so you couldn't install standard parts. I found myself wanting the original, even if it was just semi.

They are fun to shoot. Probably the closest you can get to the real thing without spending a small fortune. Just don’t shoot the real McCoy and you will be happy with it.

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They are fun to shoot. Probably the closest you can get to the real thing without spending a small fortune. Just don’t shoot the real McCoy and you will be happy with it.

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I have shot one a couple of times a good while back and it's been in the back of mind to get one. Now with time ticking faster I have to get one. This friend of my Fathers had one and let me shoot it when I was young and I told myself one day I will get one, but his was the Real Deal and I remembered when I shot that Tommy it was a Maniac of a Firearm. I still remember how heavy it was and surprised I didn't drop it. I remember it getting away from me and just spraying everywhere. It was Fun as a youngster to shoot this Weapon.

I'm glad I had the chance to own a couple of good ones for a while.

I've had 2 M1A1s for probably 40 yrs. Always wanted a 28 or 28A1, but could never find one that I could afford. With prices what they have been for 15 or 20 yrs I probably never will!
They are fun to shoot, but the high rate of fire of the M1A1 takes a bit of getting used to. A 28A1 would be a lot easier on the trigger finger!
Sarge

Very nice Jim

Wish we'd had digital cameras about 40 years back...some of the stuff I had... Maybe I should try to take some of the pics again and show you guys what I have pics of. Couldn't hurt to try.

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Originally Posted by browningautorifle

Wish we'd had digital cameras about 40 years back...some of the stuff I had... Maybe I should try to take some of the pics again and show you guys what I have pics of. Couldn't hurt to try.

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Try it Jim...Use that Nice Photo Editor you have to clean them up....

I've done a few. I have some pics of my brother and I back when I was hip deep in neat stuff...