Thanks in advance to those with answers !
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Thanks in advance to those with answers !
I was going to reply with a straight NO, but it says that it was too short an answer. So I'll try again but elaborate on my answer. In standard form, unaided, No!
Float in what medium?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeVee
mercury? maybe, glass certainly, helium, or air? probably not...
I appears to me that you haven't defined the question well enough
Good question there MikeVee. You know what I always wondered? If being kicked in the nads by a raging bull would hurt? I'm talking straight up, square on the button. Another one of life's mysteries I suppose...:dunno:
The bigger question, is why does someone ask the answer to an obvious question unless there is a gag to be shared?
So now, what's the gag?
Now, now...I can say for sure an FN C1 floats...when we were doing a beach assault with full equipment and a man went over the side, the rifle floated perfectly. His rucksack kept him afloat and the rifle was there, so we must assume it helped with flotation. His helmet too...they all helped. It was salt water too by the way...
I'm going to say yes it will float because of the significant amount of wood attached to the metalwork and also because it kind of sounds like a trick question.
Well dry Euro Walnut lists at a density of 32 (lb/ft3) and water is 62.3 however I doubt there is enough buoyancy in the wood to overcome the weight of the steel bits. Plugging the breech and bore wouldn't help much I think.
An SMLE, when tossed into the drink will go to the bottom.
Guns didn't float in 1913 New York!
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That first pic shows a Quackenbush safety rifle, a Sharps carbine, a Daisy Red Rider...one can only imagine the seriously collectible guns that went over the side that trip.
In the early 1970's, A few miles of the coast of my home town, there was dumped at sea, several hundred Lithgow No1mk111's (and large amounts of mil 1950's Aust made Mk7 ball - purported to be 50,000 rounds plus) - told to me verbally by long past old timer
None ever washed back up to shore :crying:
I heard a fair bit of gear went into a deep sea trench West of Rottnest as well, as for the Mk III floating it will not float in water sea or fresh but it will in outer space, so ponder this can a rifle be fired in outer space! I reckon it could because the propellant supplies the reaction to push the projectile. Now going into Peters realm of I guess Applied Physics the equal and apposing forces rule by Einstein would that mean the astronaut being propelled backwards by the recoil forever and would the projectile go forever or until they both hit something.:dunno::confused:
Dude, you just blew my mind. :runaway:Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
Photo proof that NY always sucked....Quote:
Originally Posted by butlersrangers
My brother made a wooden replica of an Owen Gun when we were kids, it floated..... and my eldest sun made a replica SMLE out of balsa, it floated.:dunno:
Yes...Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
MikeVee, do you have any idea yourself as to the answer to the question that you asked in Post 1?
Can a rifle be fired in space, yes, I wonder what difference a vacuum would make to muzzle velocity .. bet Peter's got the answer!Quote:
Originally Posted by CINDERS
It will give the astronauts something to do on route to Mars I guess.
Perhaps if MikeVee has a a SMLE MK III in full trim he could hurl it in a lake or their pool if they have one and report his findings pretty sure we all know the answer so Mike if you do not have a Mk III throw any rifle you have into the drink and report back oh do not forget to close the bolt would not want any water to get into the barrel would we now............................!!!:madsmile::p
You may well have hit on the new means of propulsion, could get them to Mars quicker, maybe a machine gun for a more controlled push.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclark303
Even if he means barrel clearance .... it was obviously never designed to `float´. So what´s the point?
Somewhere in the past, probably in a museum, I've seen a SMLE or the remains of that has been "washed ashore" on a beach somewhere. I can't remember the details or of exactly where I saw it but I think that, at the time, I assumed that it must have been pushed along the sea bed by underwater currents. You do hear of various types of historic munitions being washed ashore onto beaches from time to time that clearly haven't floated ashore.
I've got an open mind as to whether or not an SMLE will float or not and I somehow think that Mike is going to come back to us all and say that it will floatl. I kind of think that MikeVee already knows the answer to this and he is about to produce a "Loch Ness Monster" style photograph. The obvious answer is that it will not float but if Mike already knows this in answer to his question I don't see why he would have bothered asking the question in the first place.
Plenty of SMLE's went overboard in the scramble to escape from Dunkirk! If they had floated; the Germans would have had a great supply of rifles to use.
This one was found on the beach at low tide; apparently just a small part was visible and spotted by a keen eye who dug it out. It was under water for over 70 years.
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If MikeVee already knows the answer to the question which he set us in Post 1, which I suspect he does, I don't think that he is going to come back to us and tell us that a SMLE will sink if dropped in the drink. This leaves the alternative possibility that the SMLE does indeed float.
?????Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying10uk
Jeez BAR the bolt would be stiff on that one
Just a bit of work and she'll be fine...
After 3 pages of debate on this matter is it not surprising that MikeVee has not come back to us with anything on this matter, not once as far as I can see???
No, of course not...Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying10uk
Connecticut has some of the most restrictive firearms laws in the country.