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My buddy just got a Norwegian Krag, took it out to the range today. It works, that's good, but groups quite a bit to the left. The bad news is that we can't seem to find any way to adjust either sight, front or rear. No dovetail. There is a small screw in the front of the front sight, but has no apparent purpose. Any ideas?
Tyanks guys
Does the rear sight not have a transverse adjustment? A lateral adjusting screw? There should be one...
BAR- just checked, not a hint of any transverse adjustment on the rearsight, in fact the wood is so high that the sight doesn't have room to move anyway. The front sight apparently dovetails in to it's base, bot the dovetail is from front to rear. Weird.
How about some pics of this one? Sounds very strange. Even stranger, there are lots here that collect them and no one else has come forward...pics?
Pictures from the OP of the Norwegian Krag in question would be helpful.
Although the model 1912 Karabin, (and probably other models), has a windage adjustable rear sight, I believe the model 1894 Norwegian Krag rear-sight normally lacks such a provision. The windage adjustment was made by drifting the front sight blade in its dovetail.
It sounds like the front sight may have been changed on the rifle in question.
(Photos of model 1894 Norwegian Krag sights):
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Another WAG: The OP may have been shooting a model 1912 Norwegian Krag that has the rear-sight leaf from another Norwegian model.
That would explain the front-sight dovetail that goes 'front to rear', 'the small screw in the front of the front sight' (that doesn't seem to do anything) and the lack of windage adjustment in the front and rear sights.
Incompatible mixed sight parts!
(Norwegian model 1912 Karabin details):
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These pics and your explanation are what I suspect too...I guess we have to wait for his pics...
This is an m1912/16 carbine, just like the one pictured above,so there should be a clue there, BTW. While taking the pictures that were really needed, I spotted the secret adjustment. It's pretty obvious once seen, but we both missed it the first time around. The rear sight blade itself is adjustable sideways. the reference lines are pretty faint, not at all visible in indoor lighting. Thanks for the suggestions,though.Attachment 77132Attachment 77131
Bad 'bob4wd'. You guys must of been smoking something out in California to miss those 'windage graduations' on the rear sight.
I believed you. I puzzled to come up with a goofy possible explanation! (LOL)
BTW - The screw in the 'front of the front sight' is there to retain the blade in its 'front to rear' dovetail.
Also, you can flip the rear-sight leaf all the way forward. There is a steel pin that projects through the top of the hand-guard. This is a 'pillar' for the leaf to rest on. There is also a "V" notch on the bottom of the rear-sight blade that becomes visible. This is the 'Battle Sight'. (It is useful for sighting through the clouds of smoke).
That was what I thought anywayzzz, doesn't matter. Now you have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob4wd
Bob, can we see some pictures of your rifle, please.
Ask and you shall receive. Two pics for your further edification. This is a new computer, with Windows 10, so I want you to know it's being a real struggle for me. old brains don't learn new technology all that well.
Also, yeah I figured out the front sight screw purpose pretty quick, once I took a good look. Still pretty weird, though.
So were funning me with that innocent post? I am on drugs at the moment (Day Quill), so missed the gibe. But, yeah, deserved.
if you want more, so say and I'll struggle with all this new stuff once again.
'bob4wd' - A very nice, correct, and desirable carbine.
(My comment was intended to be funny and give you an excuse for having missed the windage adjustment - no insult intended).
My comment about the 'Battle Sight' position, with the Leaf flipped forward, was factual.
Regards
Absolutely not. Just trying to clarify. I have windows 10 here too and I'm well over the yard arm too...Quote:
Originally Posted by bob4wd
I took the comments as intended, no worries. The carbine in the picture is mine, which I have never even looked at since I bought it a couple years ago, but now that I had to really inspect it, it looks to be pretty good. Sling is repro, home made with the original hardware. I did figure out the purpose of the little post, but thought itvwas more to prevent damage to the wood.thanks for the comments.
Nice Krag, and great looking repro sling. Most original slings to be found are completly rotten. How about a range report?
As for the flip over sight, here's my answer from another forum:
The norwegian army issued a 139 grain boattailed spitzer projectile in 1925. The new ammo had a velocity of 750 m/s, and was called "D-s****", the old one was "B-s****" (s**** means point or "spitzer"). Tests started with a new bullet from NORMA in 1910. Johan Enger, one of the brothers who started NORMA was also one of the leaders of the norwegian shooters movement. He had Krags fitted with scopes and set up trials for the army in 1905, wich resulted in a Krag sniper adopted in 1910 (1000 snipers were made). http://digitaltmuseum.no/011022714744
The tests with the new bullet were very positive, but the long rifles and short carbines got different POI. The development of a "short rifle" started at the same time. The result was the M/12 carbines. The ammo question was postponed until the M/12 was finalized. Then came WWI and things were put on ice again, but finally in 1925 the new round was adopted.
Those of you who have a M/12 Krag carbine can flip the rear sight ladder forwards. You'll se a sight notch on the underside. This is a 500m battlesight. This is the point were the trajectories of the old and new ammo meet.