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So i came across a cool SVT/AVT 40 and i need some advice. Were the stocks stamped matching to the receiver during refurb process? All the numbers match and the stock has been made in the same year as the rifle, which i found cool. Also, all the inspectors marks seem intact and the stamping are all very crisp. Whats this thing worth in Canada / USA?
Ill get some pics up as soon as i figure out my new camera. :D
My rifle was not stock serialzed, the refurbishment standard really depends on the party doing the refurb. My rifle is a typical 1942 production, 6 port brake and factory sniper notched, forced match refurb with a plum coloured bolt and electro-pencil on some parts. It was purchased from a dealer about 5 years ago with magazine, sling, oiler, and ammunition pouch for about $300 CDN. Used market value of the same appears to have grown, to $450-$600 asking.Quote:
Originally Posted by domain007
A nicer condition model, without forced match parts appear to command asking prices from $600 to $800.
Original magazines and bayonets add a premium to the price, and are often sold off separately.
USD market is different and CDN market is fickle, similar guns may sell for less than listed above.
cool, i didnt know that! i thought i was a special snowflake with having my '43 AVT stock matching to my rifle, or cooler yet if i had an original AVT ;) Pics sould be up soon to make sure :)
So a couple points. Firstly you do not have (or should not have) a AVT-40 as those would be prohibited in Canada (the AVT-40 was the full auto variant of the SVT-40). Simple way to test if it is a AVT-40 is will the safety move to both sides of the stock. If it does do this, I recommend taking it to the police as otherwise it is a lengthy jail sentence.
Secondly it was very common during the refurbishment process after WWII to use AVT-40 stocks to refurbish SVT-40s whose stocks were in too poor condition for the standard. I personally have a SVT-40 with a AVT-40 stock and I prefer the thicker stock to the thinner SVT-40 stock.
As to value Sentryduty has a very good rough range. I will add that the bayonet tends to be worth 200-250$ alone. And in regards to your value in the US question, the answer is it is worthless there not because it doesn't have value, but it cannot be legally imported into the USA (unless the laws in the States change).
Yeah sorry about that I meant EX AVT (AVT40 that has been made semi only by using SVT trigger pack)
sadly no Full auto in Canada :(
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Pics Here
My SVT - Album on Imgur
I completely forgot to mention that, good catch, and they do appear from time to time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaglelord17
Thanks guys :) which are more collectible AVT stocks or SVT ones? or is it just prefferance
I can't believe either...why?Quote:
Originally Posted by domain007
Depends. That stock is not 'factory original' as in what the rifle left the factory with in 1943. It is original to the refurbishment. Odds are if I was a betting man the standard stock (in good condition, most aren't due to how thin the wrist is) will be worth more as it was what the rifle was originally intended to be issued with.Quote:
Originally Posted by domain007
That being said if you intend to shoot it lots the AVT stock will suit you better as it is thicker and didn't have the same cracking issues the original stock had. The downside is the LOP is shorter with the AVT stock than the SVT stock. Other than that it is just personal preference.
I consider that these will likely all increase in value as time goes by, as they are not making any more.........btw, I also really like the antique bedframe your SVT is resting on!
Ed
Hahaha thanks Ed, that cracked me up! Also thanks for the info guys, i was almost sure the stock was completely original. Oh well, at least I just picked up a really nice mosin m44 ... time for a new thread :p
domain007: As far as non-sniper refurbs go, '43 and '44 are certainly the rarest. Many refurbs don't end up with a replacement stock that has the matching year of manufacture so that's a ggod thing. Another consideration on valuing these refurbs is bore condition. My experience has been that maybe one in ten or fewer have truly excellent, original condition bores. Not counting Bulgarian light refurbs (which tend to have great bores) I've only stumbled on two with mirror bright, excellent bores- one a '41 and one a '44. For resale value I suspect mechanical condition may prove to be as important with these mixmaster refurbs as what may be stamped on the receiver ring. How is your bore?
Ridolpho
I've got an AVT stock on my 43 dated shooter. I think mine is an AVT/SVT conversion because of other features.
I like the thicker stock as it is more comfortable for me to shoot.
Sarge
Low is around 1100 USD to high of 1500$Quote:
Originally Posted by domain007
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It is not illegal to import a gun from Canada to the US you just need to follow the import laws. as I said that gun would fetch 1300 USDQuote:
Originally Posted by Eaglelord17
It is illegal to import Soviet surplus into the US. It is also why you guys haven't gotten any SVT-40s or Russian or Chinese SKS in decades. Otherwise do you really think dealers would bother selling SVT-40s here for 300-400$ when they could get 1100$ all day in the States?Quote:
Originally Posted by Discus420