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Hello guys , new member here.
Been reading your forum for a few days now and found it extremely informative.
Ive just recently started getting into war memorabilia stuff, started out with bayonets etc. But yesterday my wife bought me a Mk II 1942 D Bren gun. Which I absolutely love.
One question guys , What does the D stand for above the 1942 date?
cheers
Daimler - as in Daimler cars.
How about some pics of said D gun?
I think Mickey might be another one of the many transient Bren questioners that come onto the site........
I don't follow...like the questions about the #1 Mk3 we went through?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Not quite BAR. The Bren forum is notorious in my eyes/opinion for UK dewat Bren owners who come on board, ask one or two questions, get the answer which then elicits a question from our side and............... Not a peep ever again................ This Bren thread is littered with them - together with my barbed comments later. Here today, gone tomorrow without even a bye-your-leave
What we need is a sticky post at the top of this forum with common Q & As. I knows there's always the one that doesn't want to read the simple things and would rather ask but it may help eliminate those one question wonders!
Could have answered that "D" = Defective. :lol:
What the Bren or Post # 1 ? I agree with Peter in the fact that the transients come through ask one question get the answer that they could not find themselves or with the aid of their mates when this site proffers the knowledge they seek they go back to their mates a font of knowledge. Without ever probably mentioning where and who gave them their sought after knowledge, now they will be the go to guy for info on Brens...........? Or am I getting old and cynical?:dunno:
I'll stick around Peter...I only had one Bren but it was a Mk1...so long ago I can hardly remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Nope, you're not getting cynical in your old age Cinders. It's a fact - that's what does indeed happen! You can see and hear them at the UK Arms fairs. Going off at a tangent now so..........
One gave me a quick lecture about Fazakerley and Theale Mk5 Stens at a Bisley show during the summer while my friend and I were looking at some, deciding which one he would best buy. The dealer showed the expert a good little book about them and suggest that he should buy it to enhance his already wide field of knowledge and expertise. No response or recognition...........
Kind of him...and generous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Thanks Peter.
No need to thank me Mike....., just saying it as it generally is on the Bren Forum. The number would be welcome (leave out the last co7ple if you feel the need) as would a couple of photos. The flock could probably tell you more about what you have
Well, Peter, not everyone is afflicted with the disease to the same degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
I do also note too that until this 'D' question popped up here......said forum was in a near month long state of silence. Primed the pump so to speak.....
Now, I do have a serious question about these Daimler-made guns (receivers); who here besides me has a still-functional machine gun with a Daimler-made receiver? I'm asking because it relates to something I am curious about that only matters to still original, uncut, receivers. Anyone who has one too I'd like to talk with you.
-TomH
When an answer has been provided to a question that has been raised, it is just good manners to say thank-you which is dead easy to do on this Forum because all you have to do is click on the box that says "thanks". Even a person with my limited I.T. skills is able to do without too much effort.
I suspect that the "D" marking (Daimler) could/may get confused for the Enfield marking, "E" within "D". My deactivated MK2 Bren by Daimler is marked with the dispersal code rather than the "D". Does anyone know how long the "D" marking was used for before switching to the dispersal code? Was it a relatively short period?
To me the Bren Forum would be a very specialized place to post a thread due to the fact that its membership would be in the limited variety given its restrictive nature and high cost of obtaining one hence the long periods of silence, if the Lee Enfield forum was silent for a month I would be worried that the old girls are finally playing the game and all is well with the universe.
Peter I surmise you would have held your council when looking at the said rifle with your friend, wish I was the person standing next to you then again I probably would have burst out laughing with him trying to explain to you that this was the right rifle for your friend Oh Lordy what a gaff you could have had! but I commend you on your humility and good manners in not embarrassing the sales person.
TACTADV - where are you at? I'm in Colo Spgs.
I've got a running Mk I, Paper work says it's a BSAF. It's burried so deep in the safe I don't feel like digging it out.
Do you have anything else besides the Bren? I've got several including a couple of Stens.
We should get together some time and "Exercise" out gunz.
Sarge
Brens, albeit deactivated ones are VERY common in the UK Cinders. All of the variants seem to be doing the rounds but the rare ones really are the Enfield Mk1 intermediates - Those within the 6 small sub-groups between the original early Mk1 and the full blown Mk1A's. So a serial number makes life interesting for those that are interested in this numerology stuff.
Like F-10 comments. Just a simple thanks is all that's needed so that at least you can see that the info has been taken on board. But alas, new Bren enquirers seem to come - ask - and go! Just my view backed up by the threads..............
Just remembered. The real rare ones are the Canadian intermediates. Those between the Inglis Mk1's and the Inglis Mk1M's. A very small window of change there. Canada/Inglis retained the fluted gas cylinder because this was used as an important fixture point during some internal machining operation and to delete it as per the Enfield Mk1A would have caused a major line upheaval - to achieve little. So it was agreed by the Ordnance Board that it should remain.
TomH, what would you like to know? I've a few non functional Daimler Mk2s with original receivers but they are non runners so if it's specific to firing them...I'm not the one you are looking for.
The D to M67 change occurred around the T serial no range in 1942 (I have it written down somewhere. The MkII to Mk2 occurred in the RB1000 to RB2000 in the 3rd quarter of 44.
The Inglis intermediates are marked Mk1m and are in the range M4000 to M5000.
Inglis intermediates BP......... How were they phased over from Mk1 to Mk1m? I have only ever seen one but know of a few. But even then it's not many
I have 5 on the database, one of which is my own example. I also have another with all markings removed with the exception of a single Nazi ownership mark.
As far as I know there was just the one intermediate and that was pretty much a true Mk1 without the scallops in the magwell sides and marked Mk1m. That suggests to me that there was no more than approx 1000 bodies being produced at any one time.'
I have an Enfield L4A3 converted from a '42 Daimler Mk.II gun.