16-365 Garand Picture of the Day

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Interrupted in their task of building a raft at the Han River by Chinese Communist fire, these men of the 14th Combat Engineer Battalion, I Corps, return fire from behind a protecting bulldozer, March 7, 1951. DoD photo

The 14th Combat Engineer Battalion landed in Korea on 18 July 1950. The Battalion was awarded the Meritorious Unit Commendation (less Company A) for fighting as Infantry with the 25th Infantry Division (United States), and for its role in the breakout of the Pusan Perimeter. Alpha Company earned a Meritorious Unit Commendation for serving as Infantry in support of the 1st Cavalry Division (United States), and a Korean Presidential Unit Citation for minefield clearance operations. The Battalion was again inactivated 25 June 1958 in Korea.

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Pretty good cover, and a nice rest for support too.

Would the bulldozer engine block/cowling most likely actually stop all or most incoming enemy rifle and machine gun rounds? The reason that I ask is that years ago an old boy, long since deceased, who had been interested in guns all his life told me that a .455" calibre revolver round fired at a Morris Minor engine would go straight through and out the other side, if fired at point blank range. I have no way of knowing if this is true but have always remembered it. I believe that the old boy concerned did, during the 1930s, actually legally own a .455" calibre revolver and so he may have possibly had a shot at an engine block.

He probably missed and it went through the engine bonnet instead.

The Box O Truth

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Conclusions:
1.I hate to sound repetitious, but pistols are pistols and rifles are rifles. The .44 Magnum from the Ruger Super Blackhawk made a hole, but the .357 Magnum could not do the job.
2.The shotgun slug busted the block, but did not penetrate the cylinder wall.
3.The 5.56 rounds penetrated the side of the block, but did not enter the cylinder wall.
4.The .30-06 AP round not only penetrated the side of the block, but also penetrated the cylinder wall.
5.Neither the Ball nor the Green Tip in 5.56 were able to penetrate the steel plate.
6.The .30-06 AP almost made it through the plate. That’s what it was designed to do.
7.It’s fun to shoot stuff.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Rochester

pistols are pistols and rifles are rifles.

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That was more or less what I was trying to get across...and a soft lead bullet from a low velocity cartridge ain't goin' through an engine.

There used to be an old saying: "You use a pistol to shoot your way back to your rifle."

Bob

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Originally Posted by Bob Womack

You use a pistol to shoot your way back to your rifle.

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Shower guns, as they were used in the most recent conflagration...so you don't have to carry a rifle to the shower.

The old boy who told me about the revolver/engine block which I mentioned in Post 3 also held a private pilot's license in the 1920s/30s. Although he didn't actually own his own aeroplane there was an aircraft which he flew regularly at his local flying club and obviously at this time it was a traditional style of biplane. It was noticed that the wooden propeller of this aircraft had become damaged from possibly landing in fields of long grass and so a new prop was ordered which would take a while to arrive. Alarmingly by todays standards, as a temporary fix, canvas was glued to the damage on the rear of the propeller and the aircraft was permitted to cary on flying. When the new prop arrived the props were swapped over and he asked if he could have the damaged prop as a souvenir. The wooden propeller is now displayed in my home on the wall of the landing.

Why wasn't the engine block in front of the berm and not sitting in the open?? This is what gets ranges closed down. Where was the range officer??
Skip

That may be the range officer shooting

Probably a private range

Here are some pictures of the wooden propeller which I referred to in Post 9 for the benefit of anyone who may be interested. It is made from laminated wood with the grain of each successive laminate at 90 degrees to the previous. Many of these wooden props had their blades sawn off and a clock put in the centre but fortunately this one hasn't. It is quite an unusual ornament to have hanging on the wall of my house. Possibly the same company who produced this prop made them during WW1for the R.F.C./R.A.F.?

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Originally Posted by Flying10uk

Here are some pictures of the wooden propeller

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Seems you should have started a different post for that red herring...bulldozer, will it stop bullets...?

You are very quick to criticise, Jim, others may be interested even if you are not.

That's about what I expected from you.

Okay fellas, please. Flying10uk, your post is fine. Thank you for sharing with us.

I think the chap in left field all out in the open would be a good candidate for a bullet magnet despite the fire being put down by his 3 buddies, there is also another can just see his water bottle behind the chap squatting at the rear track where the rippers would be, I have no idea why one of them would be standing weaponless covering his ears he sure as hell ain't talking on a cell phone..................

Hey guys... :)

Let's try to prevent thread creep and keep our comments relevant to the original thread starter's topic or picture.

Thanks...

Regards
Doug

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I have no idea why one of them would be standing weaponless covering his ears

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Wonder if he was the driver...?

May be Jim if so probably saying "Don't hit my dozer":p

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Originally Posted by CINDERS

"Don't hit my dozer"

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It's all he has to do for a year...or the duration of the war, which ever is first.

Regardless of the caption, it could just be target practice. That would explain the "observer". :D

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Originally Posted by Bill Hollinger

it could just be target practice

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Once one guy starts, everyone wants some. That's a fact.

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Originally Posted by Charlie303

(OK, I know its not the lead topic, but its in the thread, and no one's complained so far)

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Seriously? :banghead:

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Originally Posted by Charlie303

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Thank you .. ;) :cheers: