I've been looking for a matching WWII Enfield no4 for a little bit and noticed the prices are all over place. It also seems the prices have been climbing the last couple years. What is a good price for the rifle I described?
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I've been looking for a matching WWII Enfield no4 for a little bit and noticed the prices are all over place. It also seems the prices have been climbing the last couple years. What is a good price for the rifle I described?
The price that your willing to pay to obtain one, on the Australian Web gunsite here they range from $450 ~ $2500.oo on USEDGUNS.COM.AU what you need to do is get out and about, on the web gun sites near you also look at gunshops that advertise on the web, go to gun shows or go to your local gunshop and ask them as well because every ones evaluation of Fair, Average, Good, & Excellent is different.....:confused:
Since you're in the USA, you'll need to look on some of the sales sites and follow what they sell for. If you do a bit of research, you'll be farther ahead than asking an open question to the world here, which is what it amounts to.
I just sold a bunch for a friend on gunbroker in the good ole USA. All the matching guns brought 350.00 to 400.00 plus $35.00 shipping. The only variation was a 1941 Longbranch, which there are far fewer that brought $430.00. He had a beat up BSA 4T that he sold for $650.00 less scope and mount. He had one L59A1 but I scoped that up.
That begs the question......... how on earth do you scope up a DP L59A1 rifle that has already been downgraded to DP spec?
I believe that should have been spelled as "scooped".Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
One of the joys and banes of modern electronics is automatic grammar and spelling "correction".
I have looked at completed GB sales, other sites and locally. That's where I've seen the scattered prices. Thanks for the the reply P246, your information was helpful.
The rest doesn't help at all? You'll see what you want and discard what doesn't agree with you... Look on line and follow. We can't tell you what a gun we can't see is worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckchili
Well if you have done the yards then pick out a rifle post the pics here so those with the experience can give you as honest appraisal with out being able to actually handle the weapon. Did you sell those guns to Gun Broker or place them on there yourself P246 'cause GB would have whacked a bit on them if they resold them.
Its the old adage bloke its what your prepared to pay for a particular type of a No.4 a UF serial will command a small premium price than some No.4's as will any one still in the mummy wrap un-issued (No FTR) or a No.4 T (As you never specified a No.4 T was off the radar). A rifle can be all matching well and good, but the draws could be stuffed, barrel knackered due to poor storage or cleaning (not), stock knocked to the four winds scuffed belted & bruised makes it very hard for the guys here to assist you or to get anywhere without the item & detailed pics of it and its previous history of it the No.4 you may wish to acquire :confused:
My 3 No.4's are on the bottom of the picture 2 x 1942 Savage's and a 1944 BSA No.4
I do not have a specific rifle in mind to purchase yet. From what I have seen from completed GB auctions and the like- matching no4 mk1/2's sell from $300ish to over $1000. For me, that is a pretty big spread so I asked the reasonable folks here for some guidance/ experience.
P246 offered his own recent experience with average prices which is what I specifically thanked him for.
It was certainly not my intention to ruffle any feathers.
Haven't ruffled my feathers bloke I lost all mine when I got Cindered by the Minister for Finances & War trying to sneak my 2nd No.4 under the radar without her knowledge, to be honest allot of people ask the good folks here with the experience for an opinion but give them nothing to base that opinion on. And to be fair to the guys here they do need the example you are wishing to procure as with detailed pictures they will give it to you straight with a grab it for that, beat the price down a bit or just leave it alone.
You will not find a better site that has such high values placed on integrity and honesty as this one here at Milsurps they run a tight ship and do not put up with folly. (They just tolerate me) :madsmile:
I can't believe I missed a gunbroker listing for a 1941 Long Branch - I search that website 2 times a week looking for Long Branches - not fair!!Quote:
Originally Posted by P246
Here's one for el cheapo price ENFIELD LONG BRANCH NO 4 MK 1
Holding out for a 1941 Long Branch - trying to save up to buy back a 1941 Long Branch No.4 Mk.1/2. Once I have that, then I can save my pennies for more Long Branches - woohoo!
Prices have gone nuts in the last 5 years in particular. The last well priced Lee Enfields were available from Brian Dick IMO. He had some great examples at very reasonable prices.
Here in Canada I am seeing some prices for pretty beat guns that boggle the mind.
^ agreed. It might be playing the waiting game for something interesting to pop up and just jump on it
Be wary of paying a hefty premium to dealers for a so called matching numbers gun. Although only a collector of U.K. deactivated guns, I do find on occasions that a deac is described as a fully matching numbers gun but when it arrives it turns out not to be. This can occur when parts have been changed and the serial number ground off and then the master number has been electro penciled on to match the master number of the gun that the part is being fitted to. This is a perfectly normal practice in the service life of a weapon, probably in most armies, which some would call good house keeping and something which I don't have a problem with. What I do have a problem with is if a dealer describes it as a fully matching gun and tries to charge unsuspecting collectors/enthusiasts a hefty premium to own it. If this practice was acceptable you could make any miss-matched gun a fully matching gun simply by grinding the miss-matched numbers off and replacing them with the master number. Personally I don't tend to pay a premium for a deact just because it has fully matching numbers and it doesn't make that much difference to me if it is not fully matching.
In my experience, on any decent No4 that is in good nick, you will negotiate a sale price that is just a bit more than you want to pay, and just a bit less than what the Seller actually wants. ( and probably a lot higher than what you will tell your wife that you bought if for)
Just remember to always buy the best rifle that you can afford, as the old adage is never truer. "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
the big spread in assumed value might be due to a difference in configureation and condition. thats why "whats it worth" questions are so subjective.I'v seen them go for as little as 225 to as much as 650. Mummy wrapped and complete go for the most but I've seen a mint unused 4/2 minus the wrap and accessories going for the 225. and average rifles going for about 325 to 400. Mummy wrapped ones run 600 to 800. more than that is called stoopit money.
still... It subjective when you dont decribe specifically what your looking for. I've sold five III's and 4/2's in the last 2 years and they go for about 325.
and any evaluation based soley on photo's is a crap shoot too. even if both parties are well intentioned. shipping and return
fees can increase cost alot. I've never bought a used fire arm unless I can hold it in my hand.
Best to spend some money on some books so you know what your talking about when you go shopping. knowing what you know befor you deal is a good way to sort out the bs artists whether they are sellars or gun smiths.
caveat emptor.