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Cadet marksmanship training?
Look at those elbows! There is an easy way to get it up there and hold it without strain: shoulder the rifle and hold it in place with your left hand; reach your right arm straight back behind your head, palm up; swing your hand over your shoulder and onto the pistol grip. This locks the bones in place with your elbow like those in the picture and makes a difference in accuracy :)
And it works marvelously too, just like the book states.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob seijas
Never seen a more uncomfortable shooting position. WOW!
You must be doing it wrong...unless you mean the one with the shooting jacket. Those jackets are a shade restrictive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
Most all the marksmanship teams now use a bladed modified HK stance with the elbows tucked and locked. The US Army and USMC teams haven't used the high elbow for some time now. Part may be due to the use of the M16 however looking at very recent photos with the use of the M14 the elbows are tucked.
We've changed as well to a position more like the UK used with the elbows tucked down onto the ammo pouches. They determined it made a smaller target in action, Afghanistan in specific. They also tried to turn and face the target square on to expose your vest plates, but found it wasn't really physically possible so it turned again.
Sentryduty can expound here if he sees this...
My son laughed at my off hand shooting style because my elbow was out. He started calling me "Chicken Leg" because he was used to the M4 close-in hold with elbow in the down position. I then told him to shoot my Garand with his M4 style ... very uncomfortable and shakey. He don't laugh now.
I mean the line of cadets. I'll give that position a try next time, just to try it........
I think that would be the noisiest place in the world myself...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ovidio
I know the angle does not give a true perspective but I reckon the instructors would be getting a good dose of muzzle blast from the rifles in shotgunning with trap mainly elbows up, shooting skeet was not so much as it is a tad faster and tower well you just waited for the thrower noise and looked skyward as you walked down the line too ungainly to walk with a chicken wing! The hardest ones I tried to hit were the sparrows which were half the size of a standard clay and boy could they leave you behind especially if your up around the 20 yard line........Pull....... What the! where did it go.........:confused:
World War II Army marksmanship manual picture
Attachment 80644
Yup, specially with the US rifles, that position worked marvelously.