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My M1 started to eject partially loaded clips when I was at the range. It eject thecip when it is down to the last three rounds. I have read online that it could be the clip latch or the clip latch spring. I have examined both but I do not know what either one of them would look like when they are worn out. They look ok to me, could it be another problem that is happening?
It could be the clips themselves. Are you using military or commercial clips?
Jon
try thinking of work. or having the in laws come by for a week long visit.
I bought the rifle a few years ago, I think they are surplus, but how would I tell? They haven't failed me yet but they are awfully hard to load I almost have to force them in. Not as easy as I see other people load their M1s. But up until now I have never had a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by musketjon
There are complete threads here about that already...here's three... https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....ejecting+early
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....ejecting+early https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....ejecting+early
Henry B, thanks for not disappointing me.[emoji3]
sorry i couldnt resist . i see humor in just about everything.
Various enbloc codesQuote:
Originally Posted by Snowman1510
http://www.unc.edu/~djcancer/enblocs...ollection.html
According to this link I have 1 International Sliver IS2 clip that isn't there, I have 1 Italian L&H 78, and 1 BR-W 5 post war clip.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFJon
According to the other threads I am thinking on replacing my spring or clip latch. I am just curious as to why these clips are always hard to put in?
Possibly the outside finish on them? If not then try setting the ammo in the clips by setting the points against a 4X4 or other piece of wood material. The book wanted you to set the points against the stock...
Make sure the ammo is properly staggered in the clips. Change your clip latch spring. Leave the latch alone.
I actually just stored ammunitioin in the clips hoping maybe that will have an effect (but I don't understand setting them against a 4x4?). I do make sure the ammunition is properly stacked or it all doesn't fit well in the clip without being staggered. I was planning on replacing the spring first as it is the cheapest option to do first.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Clips have been stored loaded for decades, and I've loaded clips that were made decades ago for the first time...there's no difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman1510
The original idea was to set the cartridges against the wood of the rifle. Press the points of the bullets against the wood, it seats the cartridges together and makes sure they're all the way back. You can't do it against the rifle so something else, your workbench top maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman1510
You haven't said if the clips have a thick parkerizing coat or not. The Greek black clips can be an issue. Parkerizing changes the outside thickness. Most of my clips are less than new.
Oh yes! I have done that, I do it everytime because they all look wonky if I don't have them seated in properly which annoys me a bit. And yes they have been parked.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
Some have had problems until the use a bit of paper or scotchbrite to remove the greatest part of the parkerizing from the outside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman1510
OK. What ammunition are you using HXP Lake City etc? If you are using older surplus ammo in the newer enblocs for example the Italian made the extractor cuts are different and will effect loading your enblocs. The picture illustrates what I'm talking about
I am using a belt of surplus Korean War ammunition for .30 cal MGs. So the italian made one might interfer by being to small around the brass?Quote:
Originally Posted by AFJon
Many of the Blue Sky Korean return M-1's had 8 punch marks in the stocks, where the shooter was seating the shells in the clip. Not good wood management, but I guess they got by.
I don't follow? If you're ask if my M1 is a blue sky import it isn't. I have a M1 Carby that is one however.Quote:
Originally Posted by limpetmine
Very rarely is it ever the clip latch itself that is worn causing issues.
Its usually either foreign enblocs, bad clip latch spring or worn bullet guide
Since it is happening with all your enblocs we can rule those out
Pull the clip latch spring and slightly stretch it ,reinstall and fire rifle. If problems go away replace the spring.
If problem still exists you need to measure the lobe on the bullet guide with a micrometer
If lobe is under 0.175 replace it
If you need them I have USGI clip latch springs and bullet guides for sale
If you need any more help feel free to PM me
Correct. I had HXP 65 loaded into a JMO clip no bueno, difficult to load etc. Loaded HXP 78 into the same clip worked fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman1510
A bit of steel wool on those heavily parked clips or a buffing wheel on your Dremel should solve the problem. I've had some that would load easily in one rifle but not in another. If getting the heavy park off them doesn't help toss them. CMP sells a box of 25 for twenty bucks that work just fine.
Lots of premature ejection suggestions.
Problem solved?
Just to add. I had all sorts of problems with the HXP 1972 clips that came in the sealed tins.
A run in the tumbler with some HXP cases solved about 1/3 of the problems. The rest of the troublesome clips became single load clips.